sml_photo Posted January 26, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 26, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am considering getting a Leica Monochrom. I have been a Nik Software user (Silver Efex Pro 2) since its inception. I like using it to edit and adjust my images. I'm wondering if Silver Efex is effective with the Monochrom cameras. Does it function the same as with a color capable camera. Does the lack of color channels in the Monochrom cameras affect the ability to make tonal adjustments, etc. with Silver Efex 2? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zeitz Posted January 26, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 26, 2020 Works just fine. You can play with it now by making a B&W image and seeing what you can do with it in Silver Efex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted January 26, 2020 Share #3 Posted January 26, 2020 I think the original Monochrom was bundled with Lightroo and Silver Efex Pro. When I scan B+W film I output a monochrome Tiff. Silver Efex Pro works fine. Pete 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted January 26, 2020 Share #4 Posted January 26, 2020 I should be more specific. The color filters don't work of course. But all the other functionality such as tonality and the presets for styles work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, zeitz said: Works just fine. You can play with it now by making a B&W image and seeing what you can do with it in Silver Efex. Good idea/suggestion. Thx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Stealth3kpl said: I think the original Monochrom was bundled with Lightroo and Silver Efex Pro. When I scan B+W film I output a monochrome Tiff. Silver Efex Pro works fine. Pete Thanks much for the response. Helps a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted January 27, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 hours ago, zeitz said: I should be more specific. The color filters don't work of course. But all the other functionality such as tonality and the presets for styles work. That's kinda what I was hoping! I appreciate your response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 27, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 27, 2020 There is a "look" I try to achieve in my Monochrom images that I can only accomplish with Silver Efex Pro. I can't do it in either Lightroom or Capture One, although I can get closer with C1. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Luke_Miller said: There is a "look" I try to achieve in my Monochrom images that I can only accomplish with Silver Efex Pro. I can't do it in either Lightroom or Capture One, although I can get closer with C1. Do you use a Monochrom model camera for black and white images? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted January 28, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 28, 2020 23 hours ago, sml_photo said: Do you use a Monochrom model camera for black and white images? Yes, MM and M246. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Luke_Miller said: Yes, MM and M246. Good to hear! You certainly have the experience. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Interesting...I came across this thread in the "M Monochrom" topic that seems to indicate one has to change the mode of the file from Grayscale to RGB for Nik to work with Monochrom images. Is that so? Edited February 2, 2020 by sml_photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted February 3, 2020 Share #13 Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) No ….. the default output of most processing software is RGB. It only becomes grayscale if someone changes it. Edited February 3, 2020 by Luke_Miller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted February 3, 2020 Thanks MUCH, Luke, for clearing this up for me! Appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted February 3, 2020 Share #15 Posted February 3, 2020 Basically you will lose a lot of the power of Silverefex pro to adjust tonal gradations in the image as you have no colour channel information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted February 3, 2020 Share #16 Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, viramati said: Basically you will lose a lot of the power of Silverefex pro to adjust tonal gradations in the image as you have no colour channel information True enough, but the multi-level Brightness, Contrast, and Structure Tools work just fine (both as sliders and Control Points) and their effects can be difficult to duplicate in other processors. Applying the Silver Efex presets to Monochrom images still results in significant changes even though they cannot act on color channel data. Leica had good reason to bundle Silver Efex with the first Monochrom camera.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icon80 Posted February 7, 2020 Share #17 Posted February 7, 2020 I have just installed the Nik Collection 2, which includes the Silver Efex Pro 2 application, in the hope that it will help with processing M10 M files in Capture One 20. I found that Capture One 20 will not recognise or install Silver Efex as a plugin by itself, but only as a part of the DXO Photolab suite. I can however browse directly to Silver Efex in my explorer after selecting "Edit With" in Capture One. A bit clunky, but works well once loaded and happy with it. In addition, I find that the original C1 DNG files exported as 8 bit TIF files to Silver Efex, have ballooned out from about 48Mb to 120Mb by the time they come back into C1. If exported as 16 bit TIF files, they come back as 240Mb files. Does anybody have a better workflow from Capture One 20 into Silver Efex Pro and back again? For Monochrom cameras, do you export to Silver Efex as 8 bit or 16 bit TIF files? And finally, is there any way to reduce the final TIF file size upon return from Silve Efex? Thanks for any help. Am still relatively new to Capture One - and completely new to the Monochrom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 7, 2020 Share #18 Posted February 7, 2020 To clear up a misconception you should still process and save your Monochrom images as RGB, basically because no B&W print is ever pure Greyscale. A warm or cool tone is a choice the photographer has and is a choice photographers have always used since the days of film to accentuate the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappan Posted May 18, 2020 Share #19 Posted May 18, 2020 Does anybody have good things to say if one wants to get Silver Efex 2, for an M10-P, shooting B&W jpegs? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 18, 2020 Share #20 Posted May 18, 2020 6 hours ago, tappan said: Does anybody have good things to say if one wants to get Silver Efex 2, for an M10-P, shooting B&W jpegs? Thanks It is the very best software to use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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