a.noctilux Posted December 25, 2019 Share #21 Posted December 25, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Schittra, in my use, I can say that the Summilux-M asph. has "same fingerprint" as the Noctilux-M asph. 0.95 . For many years, I was happy with the Summilux-M asph. along with other 50mm ( Noctilux 1.0 and non-asph.Summilux-M and some more ). Some years ago, time came to "try out" the 0.95 which I didn't like the output ( onion rings and not so "clean not-in-focus-area", and the size/weight ), net results led me to reconsider the rendering of the 50mm Summilux-M asph. ( I changed my mind with the infamous "Ninja Stars blobs" ) then traded the Lux asph. for other gear as I did know that I wouldn't use it anymore. That said, I understand that some people like the 0.95/50mm rendering ( ...and Summilux-M asph. of course, I was one of them ). The only way to know is trying for a while by oneself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted December 25, 2019 Share #22 Posted December 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, Schittra said: Hi Pete thanks for the input. Can you elaborate more please? Did you mean Noct 50/0.95 have similar outcome to 50/1.4 while 50/1.0 give different? The 50/1.4 Summilux asph and the 50/0.95 Noctilux are modern designs produced by Leica's Peter Karbe and the emphasis is on maximising sharpness and contrast. The 50/1 Noctilux is an older lens designed by Dr Walter Mandler, where the emphasis is on separating inter-tonal graduations so that tones graduate smoothly. Both are excellent designs but I prefer the smoother rendition of the 50/1 Noctilux (and other Mandler-designed Leica lenses) and the 50/1 Noctilux produces a very gentle vignette when shot wide open and produces colours that are more in the pastel range to my eye. You might hear some people describe the pictures produced by lenses designed by Herr Karbe as 'clinical' but I think this is unfair; the lenses produce peak performance, which to some people might look slightly harsh compared to older (classic) designs because the graduations from light to dark and vice versa are deliberately more abrupt to enhance contrast and resolution (which some people interpret as sharpness). I hope this helps you understand my point of view. Pete. 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted December 29, 2019 Share #23 Posted December 29, 2019 On 12/25/2019 at 4:56 AM, Schittra said: Hi just wonder... Will you get “Noctilux 50/0.95” if you already have lux 50/1.4? And why? i am very happy with lux50/1.4. I hate the bulky and heavyweight of Noct. But their bokeh is breathtaking! any thoughts is welcome Welcome to the forum! I find the bulk and mass of my Summilux-M 50mm ASPH to handle nicely, and I love the images. This was the lens that lured me into adding the Leica M system. A substantially larger, heavier lens would be used less, so I would capture fewer images with it. Breathtaking bokeh cannot exist, if the image is not captured, due to the lens being left at home, or left inside the bag, rather than being in-hand. I do regularly use one M-mount lens that is somewhat larger and heavier than my Summilux-M 50mm ASPH, that being a Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 Distagon ZM. I have decided that this Zeiss lens is about as large as I want to use, on a Leica M camera. The Noctilux is notably larger and heavier. Of course, others’ preferences will vary. This size/weight equation is not a matter that is resolved by “going to the gym,” but a lifestyle choice. I have lenses that weigh about 3000 grams, and cameras as large and heavy as the Nikon D5, which I use when they are suitable for the task. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oudjunk Posted December 29, 2019 Share #24 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) I just got my noctilux 0.95 on last Friday by trading my Leica M10, summilux 50 v2, zeiss 35 F1.4, and voigtlander 50 F1.2 im not sure this is the right decision or not. Today I just use this lens with Leica m6 and I wanna see my picture so bad but the photo lab is close today. ps. The balance on my m6 is quite bad and my hand hurts. Edited December 29, 2019 by oudjunk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 29, 2019 Share #25 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Oudjunk, this trading was a courageous move. With more time of using this special lens, you would see more "incomforts" that can be acceptable or not. I use a grip 14405 ( Wiki's choice for most Leica M ) on M6 when I use heavy/big lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Or if some more weight but more comfortable grip Leica Motor-M like on this M-A (even the Summicron DR is light comparing to Noctilux 0.95 ) Edited December 29, 2019 by a.noctilux 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Or if some more weight but more comfortable grip Leica Motor-M like on this M-A (even the Summicron DR is light comparing to Noctilux 0.95 ) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304736-will-you-get-%E2%80%9Cnoctilux-50095%E2%80%9D/?do=findComment&comment=3881410'>More sharing options...
a5m Posted December 29, 2019 Share #26 Posted December 29, 2019 On 12/25/2019 at 4:56 AM, Schittra said: Hi just wonder... Will you get “Noctilux 50/0.95” if you already have lux 50/1.4? And why? i am very happy with lux50/1.4. I hate the bulky and heavyweight of Noct. But their bokeh is breathtaking! any thoughts is welcome I think you pretty much answered your own question. It really comes down to: "Is the bulk worth it?" I think you will find that it's not. It'll be sitting there. You're deciding which lens to take. The first thing that'll come into your mind is how big and heavy it is and you won't want to take it. You won't like having a lens that you don't want to use. At least this was my experience. The main difference in bokeh is mostly due to the shallower DoF of the Noctilux. The overall quality or look is mostly the same. In that regard the 50 Summilux ASPH is already spectacular. I don't think the added weight, size and inconvenience, not to mention cost, will be worth it. If you were talking about the mighty F1 it'd be a whole different story... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 29, 2019 Share #27 Posted December 29, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Courageous is not a word I would have used. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 29, 2019 Share #28 Posted December 29, 2019 If he hadn’t tried it out before buying/selling, I would certainly agree. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 31, 2019 Share #29 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Am 25.12.2019 um 11:56 schrieb Schittra: Hi just wonder... Will you get “Noctilux 50/0.95” if you already have lux 50/1.4? And why? i am very happy with lux50/1.4. I hate the bulky and heavyweight of Noct. But their bokeh is breathtaking! any thoughts is welcome I saw a cheap one today: https://www.schouten-select.nl/index.php/products/leica/leica-50mm-f0-95-noctilux-m-asph-silver-box-2374.html Nice reputable dealer, so just have a try. Edited December 31, 2019 by Paulus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted December 31, 2019 Share #30 Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/25/2019 at 2:56 AM, Schittra said: Hi just wonder... Will you get “Noctilux 50/0.95” if you already have lux 50/1.4? And why? i am very happy with lux50/1.4. I hate the bulky and heavyweight of Noct. But their bokeh is breathtaking! any thoughts is welcome No I would not. I see sample pictures from Noct that is able to create bokeh at 3-4 meters away when Lux can't. It's great to have that but is it necessary, some does but not me. For regular portraits, I would probably step down to f1.4 or f2 anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 1, 2020 Share #31 Posted January 1, 2020 Buy one? No. Rent one when the need arises? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwphil Posted January 2, 2020 Share #32 Posted January 2, 2020 15 hours ago, james.liam said: Buy one? No. Rent one when the need arises? Yes. That's great if indeed one can plan ahead, and has rental choices close by and such. To me renting for two days alone would cost me $319.00 plus @25 for shipping - so if my needs would arise 20 times in four years, I would be better off buying used anyway...m but I get your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oudjunk Posted January 2, 2020 Share #33 Posted January 2, 2020 On 12/29/2019 at 10:50 PM, a.noctilux said: Oudjunk, this trading was a courageous move. With more time of using this special lens, you would see more "incomforts" that can be acceptable or not. I use a grip 14405 ( Wiki's choice for most Leica M ) on M6 when I use heavy/big lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Or if some more weight but more comfortable grip Leica Motor-M like on this M-A (even the Summicron DR is light comparing to Noctilux 0.95 ) i bought the used SL again. the balanced on SL is greater than the M body. btw, thank for suggestion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 2, 2020 Share #34 Posted January 2, 2020 8 hours ago, nwphil said: That's great if indeed one can plan ahead, and has rental choices close by and such. To me renting for two days alone would cost me $319.00 plus @25 for shipping - so if my needs would arise 20 times in four years, I would be better off buying used anyway...m but I get your point Then you have your answer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwphil Posted January 2, 2020 Share #35 Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, james.liam said: Then you have your answer. indeed master obi--wan kenobi . A lot my needs arise. Debated a lot between f/1.0 or 0.95, and it is indeed a personal taste/preference thing - maybe one day I will change my mind, but having tried the nokton 1.1 and other "soft" lenses, the 0.95 made more sense to me, if one can indeed make sense of the price, weight and size of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 2, 2020 Share #36 Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, nwphil said: indeed master obi--wan kenobi . A lot my needs arise. Debated a lot between f/1.0 or 0.95, and it is indeed a personal taste/preference thing - maybe one day I will change my mind, but having tried the nokton 1.1 and other "soft" lenses, the 0.95 made more sense to me, if one can indeed make sense of the price, weight and size of it. Weigh carefully, young Lightwalker. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinners Posted January 3, 2020 Share #37 Posted January 3, 2020 I have the 50lux asph and always wanted to get the Noc50 0.95, until I actually put one in my M10. I gave up. The handling is really bad ( for me) and it is very heavy. Ended up I bought the 50AA instead. What a beautiful little lens! With the image quality to match and it's cheaper than Noc50 as well. I might actually sell my 50lux since I find myself always reach tl 50AA now when I want to use 50mm. The last time I use the 50lux probably around 7 months ago, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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