marcolinger Posted June 17, 2020 Share #201 Posted June 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Apparently new firmware will be avaylable this friday, confirmed by german sources ! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 Hi marcolinger, Take a look here SL2 firmware update request. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
waynexu1998 Posted June 18, 2020 Share #202 Posted June 18, 2020 17 hours ago, marcolinger said: Apparently new firmware will be avaylable this friday, confirmed by german sources ! Awesome. Cant wait already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted June 18, 2020 Share #203 Posted June 18, 2020 Wow, I have the camera now almost exactly six months. So the update is just in time ... 👍🤒🤩🌞🤓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted June 18, 2020 Share #204 Posted June 18, 2020 next week I will be on holidays for a few days just in front of the Mont Blanc , just in time to try some high res shot with my new Gitzo tripod and my SL2 🙂 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted June 18, 2020 Share #205 Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Luca said: next week I will be on holidays for a few days just in front of the Mont Blanc , just in time to try some high res shot with my new Gitzo tripod and my SL2 🙂 Sounds fantastic! I have spent many an hour on Le Brevent / Planpraz side of the valley with the camera pointed at Mont Blanc. Most recently with a 5x4 and Provia 100, but really curious to see how my SL2 will perform in high resolution mode for this type of subject ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonoz Posted June 19, 2020 Share #206 Posted June 19, 2020 Did a google search and found a video of the High Resolution mode being tested on Leica Amsterdam YouTube channel with a link to the firmware (was not there). When I went to check it again they had deleted the video... my guess is they uploaded too early. Firmware must be moments away from launch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonoz Posted June 19, 2020 Share #207 Posted June 19, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, simonoz said: Did a google search and found a video of the High Resolution mode being tested on Leica Amsterdam YouTube channel with a link to the firmware (was not there). When I went to check it again they had deleted the video... my guess is they uploaded too early. Firmware must be moments away from launch. version 2 firmware released! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303774-sl2-firmware-update-request/?do=findComment&comment=3995616'>More sharing options...
Siran Posted June 19, 2020 Share #208 Posted June 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, simonoz said: version 2 firmware released! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! is there anything there other than high resolution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted June 19, 2020 Share #209 Posted June 19, 2020 Battery problem still there.... Sadly! Sigma MC 21 + Zeiss Milvus ZE (EF) lenses. Battery is too low for 4k or burst. Battery is charged about 90%. This is starting to drive me mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted June 19, 2020 Share #210 Posted June 19, 2020 The are many fixes. - Sigma Adapter MC21 still an issue on video, but you can plug in a USB battery and then it works. + USB battery works all the time now.. + SD card write improves in video log files, not can use many other SD brands with v90 speeds, before I was only able to do it with Sony Tough. I now prefer the ProGrade silver since they have 256GB versions. + Multi-shot works Nicely . - MULTISHOT not an option in remote on the iPad FOTOS app - 2 SD cards still not working in FOTOS APP - AF does not look any better 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siran Posted June 19, 2020 Share #211 Posted June 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Photoworks said: The are many fixes. - Sigma Adapter MC21 still an issue on video, but you can plug in a USB battery and then it works. + USB battery works all the time now.. + SD card write improves in video log files, not can use many other SD brands with v90 speeds, before I was only able to do it with Sony Tough. I now prefer the ProGrade silver since they have 256GB versions. + Multi-shot works Nicely . - MULTISHOT not an option in remote on the iPad FOTOS app - 2 SD cards still not working in FOTOS APP - AF does not look any better I'm grateful for the update, but really disappointed there is no improvement in AF performance. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted June 19, 2020 Share #212 Posted June 19, 2020 vor 21 Minuten schrieb Siran: I'm grateful for the update, but really disappointed there is no improvement in AF performance. Yes, me too. Autofokus is really a disappointment. Have played around with a Canon R the other day, and autofocus was really really good. The Canon R5 really gets to be an interesting camera. So sad that Leica is really bad on this area! The Autofocus system is really sub-par to the competition. Otherwise I really enjoy the SL2 and the Apos have something really special about them! Regarding the battery power via Usb-C to circumvent the camera battery issue. Yes it is a solution, but, to be fair, on a € 6000 premium body, I do expect video to simply work with any lenses! And Panasonic S 1 can use the Sigma Adapter without any hiccups, so Leica could just fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWright Posted June 19, 2020 Share #213 Posted June 19, 2020 Well crap in a bucket. Still no DOF preview- I mean really, how hard would that be to add. Still no linear focus control. Pretty sure that was a feature promised like Multishot- Jono's original review talked about this back at launch. Pretty disappointing overall. I'm likely to get out of the SL system at this point, that was a long wait for not very much of an improvement. If anyone wants to make an offer on a very nearly complete system (1 SL2 body, all lenses excluding the 90 Summicron-SL), let me know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted June 19, 2020 Share #214 Posted June 19, 2020 Yes, pretty much useless for 99% of most photography uses. Very disappointing. should be called v1.1 not 2.0! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted June 21, 2020 Share #215 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) As usual the discussion between a half full or half empty glass ... The same for the battery problem. How difficult is it to grasp that with a usb battery bank there is no problem with burst shots. But some prefer to continue whining about the same old stuff and ignoring the obvious solution, but why ? I look forward to see some interesting high res shots. (I remember not too long ago when users wanted to switch camera (SL) because others offered better resolution.). Interestingly the Leica highres (multishot) seems to work well, while the Sony version seems to be quite awkward and often with unsatisfactory results. AF is not mentioned in the update documentation, so obviously AF was not improved. Is this surprising ? Not for most of us. Still I think there will come improvements. Or let’s say I would be surprised if not. Would I sell the gear because of that ? Of course not. I still have my old Canon gear (5DSR) because it offers since 5 years the 50 Mp resolution and fast AFc. But since then Canon is not able to bring a successor with equal or better resolution. So do I think that Canon is attractive ? Not really, and it is not even cheap (R5 or 1DX iv). And it has not even IBIS with the first exception of the R5. Edited June 21, 2020 by caissa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted June 21, 2020 Share #216 Posted June 21, 2020 Just in case you have not seen it, here links to show highres results with the SL2. https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2020/06/leica-sl2-firmware-v2-0-with-187mp-multi-shot/https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy_quPtafG4&feature=emb_logo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 21, 2020 Share #217 Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, caissa said: As usual the discussion between a half full or half empty glass ... What I find fascinating is that people have managed to judge every aspect of this new firmware within minutes of it being released. I am truly impressed! It took me weeks to find most of the tweaks in the original SL's firmware. It wasn't the headline changes that were important, it was the constant refinement of almost every aspect of workflow. For instance, responsiveness and battery life improved with every release, even though this was rarely mentioned. We all ended-up with cameras that could take 100 or 200 more shots on a charge (from about 800 to 1,000 in my experience). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted June 21, 2020 Share #218 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) I have to disagree here completely. If using a L-mount alliance partner‘s adapter is not possible because of firmware issues, which is known to Leica since at least early this year, is not possible without using external power on a premium flagship camera, it’s not whining around but simply ridiculous! And please stay away of insulting others that they don’t grasp things! If you develop a premium level camera with a premium price tag, such basic things have to just work. Can you state any other camera on the market, which needs external power for burst shooting or video recording? I guess not... so please stop protecting Leica for something they should have tested and fixed before releasing the SL2! And to add here, that I have read some entries on this forum, where users have had a battery problem with native SL lenses as well.... High Res mode is a nice move, which can help in special situations, and it’s good to see Leica add this one. And I am currently evaluating how useful it actually is. Regarding AF. Yes sadly nothing. And I’m not expecting that much due to the contrast base AF system. It would have been nice to add the also promised linear MF controls though. Edited June 21, 2020 by sebas_ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 21, 2020 Share #219 Posted June 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, sebas_ said: Can you state any other camera on the market, which needs external power for burst shooting or video recording? Almost every professional video camera offers external power, and you can get "dummy" batteries with D-Tap for most DSLRs. This doesn't excuse Leica's power-management, such as it is, but many video shooters are used to hauling extra batteries. What's unusual with this situation is that it differs greatly between different lenses, and that Leica is very conservative in their estimation of required power reserves. Maybe Leica was caught off-guard by the power consumption of other L-Mount partners' lenses. They probably assumed that Sigma and Panasonic performed similarly to Leica's own lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted June 21, 2020 Share #220 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Yes, video cameras are of course another jack of trade and these offer V-Mount base-plates, proprietary battery solutions and/or external power. I see the SL2 more as a hybrid kind of DSLM and it is true that dummy batteries are used, but they are intended to lengthen the running time on one charge, not to be necessary for burst and 4K capture. I think that allowing external USB-C power is a great addition, but it should also work just in-camera. Like any other DSLM out there. Just imagine that the Canon 1DX needs external power to use burst shooting (I know different camera, but I guess you get what my point is there). Just to add: Has anyone tried a dummy battery with 4k/burst? As the dummy is seen as internal battery, I am not sure if this would circumvent the problem. I do not know exactly what the problem really is. I am using the Zeiss Milvus ZE (EF) lenses via the Sigma MC-21. These lenses have no autofocus motor, no OIS, only electronic aperture control. So they will not need much power. I just really hope that it won't take another 6 month that this is ironed out. I was okay with working-around for about half a year, but I am starting to get fed up that these kinds of bugs are not fixed in a 2.0 firmware update. With the addition that I have not found anything on the net that Panasonic S or Sigma FP have the same problem, so it should be fixable. Edited June 21, 2020 by sebas_ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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