camalogica Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted October 22, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said: So far results are making me interested in working on them. I should be able to test it under Windows. Thank you very much! Let me know if you have any problem. Looking forward to seeing your results & conclusions! T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ko.Fe. Posted October 23, 2019 Share #22 Posted October 23, 2019 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This was my first file to convert. I'm using LR 4.4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This was my first file to convert. I'm using LR 4.4 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3840652'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 23, 2019 Share #23 Posted October 23, 2019 Second one went not so well. I don't think I have seen noise like this on my scans. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3840653'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 23, 2019 Share #24 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) This one I'm finding to be most organic on outcome and more easier to work with in LR. It is kind of one of the very few bw from M-E I like so far. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 23, 2019 by Ko.Fe. 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3840655'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 23, 2019 Share #25 Posted October 23, 2019 This one is less impressive on outcome, but it is more difficult exposure, source file to work with in LR. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3840660'>More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #26 Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: This one is less impressive on outcome, but it is more difficult exposure, source file to work with in LR. Hi, Thank you very much for testing! Mmmmmh, after watching your results it seems to me that you are not doing the gamma adjustment, are you? The program generates 16bit per channel, per pixel (48bit per pixel) TIFF images, with gamma adjusted to 1.0, so the negative will look dark. This is done this way becuase scanning software like Vuescan or Silverfast HDR accept this 48bit per pixel TIFFs as input. Later this evening I'll add an option to the program so the output can be 16bit TIFFs with gamma 1.0 for Vuescan / Silverfast HDR, or 8bit TIFFs with gamma 2.2 which could be used directly with Photoshop / LR 4.4 / GIMP / or whatever image manipulation program 🙂 It's also possible to adjust it yourself in Photoshop or Gimp, adjusting the gamma (of the negative generated file) to 2.2 Also, would you mind sending me the DNG of the noisy image to test myself and try to find the error? Thanks you very much again! I'm happy to see the results!! Best regards! T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 23, 2019 Share #27 Posted October 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2. Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this. Will send files after 20.00 EST today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted October 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said: I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2. Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this. Will send files after 20.00 EST today. I think it's not possible to adjust it in LR... later today I'll add the two options to the program 1.- Choose output gamma (as said in previous post) to set output directly to 2.2 2.- Frame optional [yes|no] No hurry about the DNG, it's ok 20.00 EST or even later! (here it will be 02:00 AM!) Thanks!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2. Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this. Will send files after 20.00 EST today. Hi again, I've uploaded the new version, it's possible to download it in the following link: https://mega.nz/#!EZMzSAyK!BZkFnnXUkTCFflRM7GJejUyoxUVr34tO_Pr8B-8sU2Q Now possible to do the conversion without frames and output gamma at 2.2, Superia200 film, adding some parameters to the command line. m9tofilm.exe -i "E:\DATA\LeicaM9\dng\160\02_CABANAL" -o "F:\DEV\output" -f superia200 -frame false -gamma 2.2 L1003097.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0% L1003098.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0% L1003099.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0% Tomorrow I'll test with the noisy DNG to see what happens 🙂 Cheers! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) An example of a DNG vs the processed file with the application. Original: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Processed: Edited October 23, 2019 by camalogica 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Processed: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3840985'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 24, 2019 Share #31 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) I run it again with new version. To be honest... I don't like it. To much awkward, reversed manipulations for result which is just odd. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maybe it is my unwillingness to spend time with it in LR. BTW, supperia200 or any Fuji film is my last choice. I prefer Kodak for colors. Even Kodak Gold 200 is awesome, IMO. Edited October 24, 2019 by Ko.Fe. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maybe it is my unwillingness to spend time with it in LR. BTW, supperia200 or any Fuji film is my last choice. I prefer Kodak for colors. Even Kodak Gold 200 is awesome, IMO. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841226'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 24, 2019 Share #32 Posted October 24, 2019 This is normal M-E exposure in same LR 4.4. To me it reminds slide films I'm using since teenage. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841227'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 24, 2019 Share #33 Posted October 24, 2019 I also retried new version with BW. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! To me it has more potential than original and Silver Effects Pro bellow: 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! To me it has more potential than original and Silver Effects Pro bellow: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841240'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 24, 2019 Share #34 Posted October 24, 2019 Original converted to bw in LR 4.4: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841241'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 24, 2019 Share #35 Posted October 24, 2019 Silver Effects Pro with TriX applied. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841243'>More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #36 Posted October 24, 2019 Thanks for your honest comments. I'm going to test with the DNG to see what is the problem. Since all the testing was done with Leica M9 and your are shoting using M-E maybe is something related to this... I'm glad to know you like the black and white 🙂 This days I'll work on a autodevelop feature, so the output is possitive and without film color cast. Best regards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted October 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: I run it again with new version. To be honest... I don't like it. To much awkward, reversed manipulations for result which is just odd. I've done the test and nothing weird with the DNG. Then, after developing with Silverfast HDR, with almost no adjustments, I get the following: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maybe too saturated, but I haven't changed any default parameter (besides the scanner/film settings) as following: 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Maybe too saturated, but I haven't changed any default parameter (besides the scanner/film settings) as following: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841557'>More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #38 Posted October 24, 2019 Side-to-side comparison: The DNG (no adjustments, in LR. Left) with the processed and developed in Silverfast HDR (Right): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841562'>More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #39 Posted October 24, 2019 And a last Side-to-side comparison: The processed and developed in Silverfast HDR (Left) with your LR developed file: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As said before, I'll be working in an auto-develop feature the following days. For me working with Silverfast HDR (or Vuescan) is the best, but at least, this way, you'll get a positive out of the conversion program, so only tipical adjustments (Contrast/Saturation/Clarity/...) should be done under LR 🙂 Best regards!! Tomás 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As said before, I'll be working in an auto-develop feature the following days. For me working with Silverfast HDR (or Vuescan) is the best, but at least, this way, you'll get a positive out of the conversion program, so only tipical adjustments (Contrast/Saturation/Clarity/...) should be done under LR 🙂 Best regards!! Tomás ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=3841565'>More sharing options...
camalogica Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #40 Posted October 24, 2019 Hi again, I've done a really basic version of auto develop. It works adding the "-autodevelop" option to the command line. It will apply gamma correction, do the negative and some auto-levels. (Without optimizations, nothing fancy) Possible to download it at: https://mega.nz/#!YccAGApb!fzqRRiUu4kofP_buXhBPpD69ORINOskQNtSGOIhULVA I recommend, if possible, to use Silverfast HDR to process negative outputs, but if you want fast results to be edited in LR this is a nice way to go, I think 🙂 I hope you enjoy, I'll try to improve this functionality in the following days! Best! Tomás 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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