Homemade method of simulating FILM with Leica M9 - Testers & feedback welcome!

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12 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said:

So far results are making me interested in working on them. I should be able to test it under Windows.

Thank you very much!

Let me know if you have any problem.
    
Looking forward to seeing your results & conclusions!

T.

[Ko.Fe.]

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This was my first file to convert. I'm using LR 4.4

 

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[Ko.Fe.]

Second one went not so well. I don't think I have seen noise like this on my scans.

 

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This one I'm finding to be most organic on outcome and more easier to work with in LR.

It is kind of one of the very few bw from M-E I like so far.

 

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Edited October 23, 2019 by Ko.Fe.

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This one is less  impressive on outcome, but it is more difficult exposure, source file to work with in LR.

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6 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said:

This one is less  impressive on outcome, but it is more difficult exposure, source file to work with in LR.

Hi,

Thank you very much for testing!

Mmmmmh, after watching your results it seems to me that you are not doing the gamma adjustment, are you?

The program generates 16bit per channel, per pixel (48bit per pixel) TIFF images, with gamma adjusted to 1.0, so the negative will look dark.

This is done this way becuase scanning software like Vuescan or Silverfast HDR accept this 48bit per pixel TIFFs as input.

Later this evening I'll add an option to the program so the output can be 16bit TIFFs with gamma 1.0 for Vuescan / Silverfast HDR, or 8bit TIFFs with gamma 2.2 which could be used directly with Photoshop / LR 4.4 / GIMP / or whatever image manipulation program 🙂

It's also possible to adjust it yourself in Photoshop or Gimp, adjusting the gamma (of the negative generated file) to 2.2

Also, would you mind sending me the DNG of the noisy image to test myself and try to find the error?

Thanks you very much again! I'm happy to see the results!!

Best regards!

T.

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I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2.

Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this.

Will send files after 20.00 EST today.

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18 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said:

I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2.

Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this.

Will send files after 20.00 EST today.

I think it's not possible to adjust it in LR... later today I'll add the two options to the program

1.- Choose output gamma (as said in previous post) to set output directly to 2.2
2.- Frame optional [yes|no]

No hurry about the DNG, it's ok 20.00 EST or even later! (here it will be 02:00 AM!)

Thanks!!

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5 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said:

I didn’t find where it is adjusted in LR. My Silverfast is set to 2.2.

Is the frame optional? I do not scan, print with frame like this.

Will send files after 20.00 EST today.

Hi again,

I've uploaded the new version, it's possible to download it in the following link:

https://mega.nz/#!EZMzSAyK!BZkFnnXUkTCFflRM7GJejUyoxUVr34tO_Pr8B-8sU2Q

Now possible to do the conversion without frames and output gamma at 2.2, Superia200 film, adding some parameters to the command line.

m9tofilm.exe -i "E:\DATA\LeicaM9\dng\160\02_CABANAL" -o "F:\DEV\output" -f superia200 -frame false -gamma 2.2
L1003097.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0%
L1003098.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0%
L1003099.DNG: 0.0%...19.2%...38.3%...57.5%...76.7%...95.9%...100.0%

Tomorrow I'll test with the noisy DNG to see what happens 🙂

Cheers!

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An example of a DNG vs the processed file with the application.

Original:

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Processed:

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[Ko.Fe.]

I run it again with new version.

To be honest... I don't like it. To much awkward, reversed manipulations for result which is just odd. 

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Maybe it is my unwillingness to spend time with it in LR.

BTW, supperia200 or any Fuji film is my last choice. I prefer Kodak for colors. Even Kodak Gold 200 is awesome, IMO.

 

Edited October 24, 2019 by Ko.Fe.

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This is normal M-E exposure in same LR 4.4.

To me it reminds slide films I'm using since teenage.

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I also retried new version with BW.

 

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To me it has more potential than original and Silver Effects Pro bellow:

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Original converted to bw in LR 4.4:

 

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Silver Effects Pro with TriX applied.

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Thanks for your honest comments.
    
I'm going to test with the DNG to see what is the problem. Since all the testing was done with Leica M9 and your are shoting using M-E maybe is something related to this...

I'm glad to know you like the black and white 🙂

This days I'll work on a autodevelop feature, so the output is possitive and without film color cast.

Best regards!

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17 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said:

I run it again with new version.

To be honest... I don't like it. To much awkward, reversed manipulations for result which is just odd. 

 

I've done the test and nothing weird with the DNG.

Then, after developing with Silverfast HDR, with almost no adjustments, I get the following:

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Maybe too saturated, but I haven't changed any default parameter (besides the scanner/film settings) as following:

 

 

 

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Side-to-side comparison: The DNG (no adjustments, in LR. Left) with the processed and developed in Silverfast HDR (Right):

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And a last Side-to-side comparison: The processed and developed in Silverfast HDR (Left) with your LR developed file:

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As said before, I'll be working in an auto-develop feature the following days.

For me working with Silverfast HDR (or Vuescan) is the best, but at least, this way, you'll get a positive out of the conversion program, so only tipical adjustments (Contrast/Saturation/Clarity/...) should be done under LR 🙂

Best regards!!

Tomás

 

 

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Hi again,

I've done a really basic version of auto develop.

It works adding the "-autodevelop" option to the command line. It will apply gamma correction, do the negative and some auto-levels. (Without optimizations, nothing fancy)

Possible to download it at:

https://mega.nz/#!YccAGApb!fzqRRiUu4kofP_buXhBPpD69ORINOskQNtSGOIhULVA

I recommend, if possible, to use Silverfast HDR to process negative outputs, but if you want fast results to be edited in LR this is a nice way to go, I think 🙂

I hope you enjoy, I'll try to improve this functionality in the following days!

Best!

Tomás