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and of course there is f1.4 what the Cron cant offer:

 

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I would say in this shot at f2.0 maybe very slighty smoother bokeh with the Lux? But I doubt any relevance in reall life.

By the way while the Cron looks clearly smaller and feels smaller, the Lux doesnt feel much heavier on the camera, and feels stable in hand.

What I try to say is in handling the difference is not that much different as one would assume when seeing the lens size. The Cron focuses faster.

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vor 42 Minuten schrieb ericborgstrom:

Could you please elaborate? I have not seen this claim anywhere and not experienced it myself. 

/Eric

It becomes evident when shooting two cameras side by side, one camera with manual focus, M10 in this case, and one with AF, X1D in this case. There will be shots with the AF camera where the focus point is off. 

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb prismstorm:

So basically the Lux now has no real advantage over the newer APO-Cron? 

This is not the case and others have answered it. It depends on the genre. If you’re shooting people, or cats for that matter, with the 50 Summilux-SL one eye only will be in focus wide open, with the 50 Summicron-SL both eyes will be in focus wide open. For most other objects, like Tom’s example above, the difference is small. F/1.4 blurs the background more than f/2, obviously. 

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I'm curious as to how the SL 50 Summicron compares to the TL 35 1.4 (which I have used on my SL).

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Rob, I could try to do some test shots for you this weekend but I have done α7R III with the APO 50 M (renders basically the same) vs. CL with the 35 Summilux-TL. The SL lens will be visibly sharper and show no CA/PF whatsoever. There will be tons of PF with the TL lens wide open. Background blur will basically be the same. See here for the over/under shots mentioned: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-qDx8fd/

Let me know if you still like to see the comparison. 

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5 minutes ago, Chaemono said:

Rob, I could try to do some test shots for you this weekend but I have done α7R III with the APO 50 M (renders basically the same) vs. CL with the 35 Summilux-TL. The SL lens will be visibly sharper and show no CA/PF whatsoever. There will be tons of PF with the TL lens wide open. Background blur will basically be the same. See here for the over/under shots mentioned: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-qDx8fd/

Let me know if you still like to see the comparison. 

Chaemono - that would be appreciated, but only if you've got some free time to compare the two.  No urgency. Thanks, Rob

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1 hour ago, Chaemono said:

It becomes evident when shooting two cameras side by side, one camera with manual focus, M10 in this case, and one with AF, X1D in this case. There will be shots with the AF camera where the focus point is off. 

Oh, I see. Side by side on tripod and magnifying Live view the M. Thank you for elaborating. The M10 is a fantastic camera, as is the X1D.

Happy shooting!

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15 hours ago, prismstorm said:

So by your last sentence, the Lux is still ahead in terms of background blur and rendering for people shots? I own the Lux and am tempted to switch to the new APO 50/2 Cron, and having looked at the MTF curves the new Cron seems to be ahead on contrast and resolution above even the 'reference' level of the Lux, a fact that seems to be confirmed by your observation that the Cron's sharpness at infinity is above the Lux ....

Yes in my opinion the cron is better for planar landscapes with everything in focus; and yes the lux at 1.4 has evident less DOF, expecially at a a certain distance, like if you have a full body subject framed.  

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Not directly relevant, but I was surprised how little difference there was between the 35/1.4 on the TL2 and the M 50 Cron on the SL. S with 70/2.5 as an extra bonus.

TL2 35/1.4

SL 50/2

S with the 70/2.5. Not an exact FoV match, but the closest I could come.

Matt

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50 APO SL @ F2

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Am 6.9.2019 um 11:31 schrieb ropo54:

Chaemono - that would be appreciated, but only if you've got some free time to compare the two.  No urgency. Thanks, Rob

Rob, the APO 50 Summicron-SL is insanely sharp. These were opened in Preview from DNGs first and exported as JPEGs. No sharpening applied. If you like insanely sharp and optical perfection out-of-the-box with no aberrations, the 50 Summicron-SL is your lens. I will post a few more.

Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-TRTrtv/

 

CL + 35 Summilux-TL exported from DNG in Preview first and not touched.

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S1 + APO 50 Summicron-SL exported from DNG in Preview first and not touched.

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These are with equal amount of sharpening applied in LR and processed to try to match.

Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-TRTrtv/

 

CL + 35 Summilux-TL

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S1 + APO 50 Summicron-SL 

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The APO 50 Summicron-SL also makes foamier cappuccino, I'd say.  With equal amount of sharpening applied in LR and processed to try to match.

Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-TRTrtv/

 

CL + 35 Summilux-TL

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S1 + APO 50 Summicron-SL 

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