lct Posted July 31, 2024 Share #241 Posted July 31, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 52 minutes ago, TheEyesHaveIt said: Fred Miranda’s review has shown better sharpness as well for the SR. Interesting thank you. Would you have any link to this review? Sorry if the link has been posted already but i can't seeem to recall it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hmzimelka Posted July 31, 2024 Share #243 Posted July 31, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, lct said: Interesting thank you. Would you have any link to this review? Sorry if the link has been posted already but i can't seeem to recall it. Its a quick and easy search... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steel+rim+vs+Voigtlander+site%3Awww.fredmiranda.com&t=osx&ia=web Edited July 31, 2024 by hmzimelka 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEyesHaveIt Posted July 31, 2024 Share #244 Posted July 31, 2024 35 minutes ago, RexGig0 said: I test-shot a friend’s Nokton II in February 2023. I then tested a pre-owned Summilux Version II in June 2023, alongside a demonstrator FLE, at a Leica dealer. I decided that I could not justify the expense of either the Version II, because I believed the Nokton II to be better, or the price of a pre-owned FLE, but that I might eventually try buying a pre-owned FLE, as prices fell after the FLE II became more available. I finally decided to buy the Re-Edition Steel Rim, new, at the end of June 2023, when Leica USA received a small shipment of them. I got a good one, and have no regrets. The very excellent sample images, posted at the Fred Miranda forum, many by Fred, himself, helped me to decide that I would spend the money for the Re-Edition Steel Rim. Notably, the price of a new Steel Rim Re-Edition was the maximum I could hope to spend, without having to pay interest, and even that meant being very frugal, for the next six months. So, money WAS an object, for me, and remains so. My Steel Rim may well remain the only Leica M lens I ever buy new, rather than pre-owned. (I started Leica M shooting with a pre-owned Summilux-M 50mm ASPH, and a new original-version M10, made possible by a modest post-retirement financial windfall.) Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I own the FLE v1 and it is a great lens. But it is “heavy and big” (though not at all when compared to most other systems!). So I was hoping to get something smaller for travel - but that can’t be the sole reason to justify the cost, so the SR or this CV also offer more character and different rendering style than the FLE (the SR more so). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 31, 2024 Share #245 Posted July 31, 2024 30 minutes ago, hmzimelka said: Its a quick and easy search... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steel+rim+vs+Voigtlander+site%3Awww.fredmiranda.com&t=osx&ia=web Thank you much @hmzimelka. I seem to have seen those pictures or part of them already. The feeling i had then was that the CV 35/1.4 is slightly sharper at f/1.4 than the Reissue. Same feeling i have when comparing my CV 35/1.4 SC v2 to my Summilux 35/1.4 v2, except for the glow, but i may be missing something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted July 31, 2024 Share #246 Posted July 31, 2024 From my testing, the voigtlander is inferior to the steel rim reissue (in terms of image quality), but build quality seems better than the SR reissue. SR reissue has better center sharpness, more glow, and less distortion than the voigtlander nokton classic ii. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted July 31, 2024 Share #247 Posted July 31, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've used both the CV Nokton 35 1.4 v1 & v2, but never a 35 Summilux of any vintage. However, both my CVs seem to be as sharp and the v2 Summicron 35 I've used since 1969. They do have more distortion (both about the same), but it's never bothered me in "real" pictures. I wouldn't call them exceptionally sharp from f1.4 to 2.8 but are pleasing for low light work in that range. I've done some near 100% crops of the v1 at 5.6-8.0 that held up very well. I keep the Noktons on film and M9, and stay with the Summarit 35 2.5 on my M10, where nothing faster than 2.5 is needed. I love small lenses, and these are ideal size to me. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 1, 2024 Share #248 Posted August 1, 2024 Dug up some old pictures of my tests between the Leica 35mm steel rim reissue, Voigtlander 35mm Nokton Classic SC ii and Leica 35mm lux pre-asph v2. These quick tests were done on different days but around similar time in the afternoon, so the color/lighting maybe off. But this is just a comparison of sharpness for you guys. PICTURE 1: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! CENTER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 CORNER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 KEYCHAIN ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! CENTER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 CORNER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 KEYCHAIN ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Middle = Voigtlander NC SC ii Bottom = Lux pre-asph v2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296994-voigtl%C3%A4nder-nokton-3514-ii/?do=findComment&comment=5456211'>More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 1, 2024 Share #249 Posted August 1, 2024 This time, the lux pre-asph v2 was not tested in this one. PICTURE 2: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! CENTER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii CORNER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii LEFT EDGE ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! CENTER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii CORNER ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii LEFT EDGE ZOOM: Top = SR reissue Bottom = Voigtlander NC SC ii ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296994-voigtl%C3%A4nder-nokton-3514-ii/?do=findComment&comment=5456231'>More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 1, 2024 Share #250 Posted August 1, 2024 (edited) -All lenses show significant vignetting. -In the Voigtlander, you can see the barrel distortion in the second picture. -SR has the sharpest center image and also the most "glow". -Lux Pre-asph V2 is the least sharpest in the center. Edited August 1, 2024 by 69xchange 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 3, 2024 Share #251 Posted August 3, 2024 Received her in the mail today. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296994-voigtl%C3%A4nder-nokton-3514-ii/?do=findComment&comment=5460817'>More sharing options...
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TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Posted August 4, 2024 Share #253 Posted August 4, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 10:55 PM, 69xchange said: -All lenses show significant vignetting. -In the Voigtlander, you can see the barrel distortion in the second picture. -SR has the sharpest center image and also the most "glow". -Lux Pre-asph V2 is the least sharpest in the center. Can't really draw any conclusions from your pictures because the lighting is so different between test shots. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted November 9, 2024 Share #254 Posted November 9, 2024 Just for the fun of comparing - here is an image of the v1 version of Nokton 35/1.4 (MAP Camera Anniversary in brass chrome). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296994-voigtl%C3%A4nder-nokton-3514-ii/?do=findComment&comment=5691407'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted November 9, 2024 Share #255 Posted November 9, 2024 A lightweight delight of a lens, whether on M10M or M11. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296994-voigtl%C3%A4nder-nokton-3514-ii/?do=findComment&comment=5691486'>More sharing options...
jgeenen Posted November 9, 2024 Share #256 Posted November 9, 2024 I have a Nokton II S.C. If I conclude everything posted so far (and read elsewhere), the Nokton and the different variants of Summilux pre asph are very close (at least in real world photography) - so from rational point I wouldn’t benefit from a change, right? On my M11, the special characteristics of the Nokton do not qualify it to be an everyday lens. I am right now checking out how it works out on my MP (I assume the characteristics to be less pronounced on 8x10 prints). Could it be the default lens to go on film? While waiting for the scans from my recent London trip (I loved size and weight of the combo) I am doing a trip to Berlin right now - with the Summilux asph… Will I notice the difference in print? While I notice the difference in carrying or handling? I will see… what is your opinion? Is the Nokton a good every day choice for a film Leica MP? Or, if I want to keep the form factor, should I go for a Cron or Lux? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 9, 2024 Share #257 Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) 47 minutes ago, jgeenen said: I have a Nokton II S.C. If I conclude everything posted so far (and read elsewhere), the Nokton and the different variants of Summilux pre asph are very close (at least in real world photography) - so from rational point I wouldn’t benefit from a change, right? Yes unlike you want a more modern rendition. Voigtlander Nokton 35/1.5 asph would probably be the better candidate aside from the Leica Summilux 35/1.4 asph and the Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4 i have no experience with. Edited November 9, 2024 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikos Posted November 9, 2024 Share #258 Posted November 9, 2024 In @69xchange 's comparison post, I though the v2 lux looked the best out of all 3 and the Nokton Classic looked 2nd best. In terms of rendering that is, while disregarding colour and lighting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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