sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #81 Posted September 11, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 21 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: Still a lens I’d like to buy … so do I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #82 Posted September 11, 2021 but it'd be terrible if it's the same size of a 75/1.25. It'd be smaller than 50/0,95; it would be perfect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #83 Posted September 11, 2021 E46 filter size 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 11, 2021 Share #84 Posted September 11, 2021 I wonder which would this 35mm Noctilux be : - 1.0/35 (filter size 60mm ? 🤑) or - 1.2/35 (filter size 52mm ? 👍) or - 1.25/35 (filter size 39mm or 46mm? 🙃) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #85 Posted September 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: I wonder which would this 35mm Noctilux be : - 1.0/35 (filter size 60mm ? 🤑) or - 1.2/35 (filter size 52mm ? 👍) or - 1.25/35 (filter size 39mm or 46mm? 🙃) - 1.0/35 60mm awful - 1.2 or 1.25 /35 no sense it's half stop faster than a summilux (with a digital body is negligible) E46 is lot bigger than needed. They sell at gold price, they could design an E39 Noctilux/35 flawless. E46 is a very large margin.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #86 Posted September 11, 2021 The first Noctilux 1.0/50 had a 58mm thread...with a 50mm focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 11, 2021 Share #87 Posted September 11, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 minute ago, sarav said: The first Noctilux 1.0/50 had a 58mm thread...with a 50mm focal length. ...and it's still fantastic!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 11, 2021 Share #88 Posted September 11, 2021 I think the biggest benefit of a 35 Noctilux is that it will make the price of the 35 APO Summicron-M look affordable! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted September 11, 2021 Share #89 Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, a.noctilux said: I wonder which would this 35mm Noctilux be : - 1.0/35 (filter size 60mm ? 🤑) or - 1.2/35 (filter size 52mm ? 👍) or - 1.25/35 (filter size 39mm or 46mm? 🙃) Leica, please no “1.25” Bullshit. That “5”’is really a sore. Edited September 11, 2021 by Capuccino-Muffin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 11, 2021 Share #90 Posted September 11, 2021 1.25 Why not in 35mm when this is already the case of 75mm https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/M-Lenses/Noctilux-M-75-f-1,25-ASPH Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Full of nice glasses Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Full of nice glasses ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294847-35mm-noctilux-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4273807'>More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted September 12, 2021 Share #91 Posted September 12, 2021 1.25 really feels like cheating. It’s way too close to f1.4. Might as well call it f1.4, really. since all it takes for a lens to be called “noctilux” is to be f.1.39 or less, I really feel Leica is playing the incremental game a bit too much and I hope we don’t see any f.1.25 anymore. Go f1.2 or go home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 12, 2021 Share #92 Posted September 12, 2021 one full stop wider than a summilux is mandatory otherwise there's no advantage. I own 0,95 Noctilux and 1.25 Noctilux. 75 is a fantastic performer but it's way too big, heavy...it's not an M lens and I rarely carry it with me; It's a lens for benchmark. If there'll be a 35/1.0 or a 35/0,95 I'm going to sell the 75 without regrets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted September 12, 2021 Share #93 Posted September 12, 2021 If people are keen on a 35mm with aperture wider than f2, I can heartily recommend the VM 35mm Nokton III f1.2. 52mm filter thread and relatively lightweight at 332g. Performs well on my M10M. (album on Flickr). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted September 12, 2021 Share #94 Posted September 12, 2021 https://www.dpreview.com/samples/1088727305/laowa-argus-35mm-f0-95-sample-gallery-dpreview-tv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 12, 2021 Share #95 Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: 1.25 really feels like cheating. It’s way too close to f1.4. Might as well call it f1.4, really. since all it takes for a lens to be called “noctilux” is to be f.1.39 or less, I really feel Leica is playing the incremental game a bit too much and I hope we don’t see any f.1.25 anymore. Go f1.2 or go home. Also as @Keith (M)mentions , Voigtlander make a very good 35/1.2 For Leica to justify six or more times that outlay, to an increasingly aware M user group, they need to show significant differentiation and innovation. Edited September 12, 2021 by FrozenInTime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarosuav Posted September 12, 2021 Share #96 Posted September 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Also as @Keith (M)mentions , Voigtlander make a very good 35/1.2 For Leica to justify six or more times that outlay, to an increasingly aware M user group, they need to show significant differentiation and innovation. I have the new Nokton 35/1.2 vIII, and while it’s a decent lens, a Noctilux it is not… I can guarantee you that when/if Leica comes out with a 35mm Noct, it’s going to sell very well. I’ll be the first one in line! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 12, 2021 Share #97 Posted September 12, 2021 20 hours ago, sarav said: - 1.0/35 60mm awful - 1.2 or 1.25 /35 no sense it's half stop faster than a summilux (with a digital body is negligible) E46 is lot bigger than needed. They sell at gold price, they could design an E39 Noctilux/35 flawless. E46 is a very large margin.... Not quite as simple as 35mm f/1.0 = 35mm filter size. Especially with a wide-angle lens. The aperture deep inside may only need to be 35mm diameter to create f/1.0 - but the front elements need to be a lot bigger to take in light at the wider angle of view, without vignetting. And provide Leica-quality corrections for aberrations. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294847-35mm-noctilux-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4274250'>More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 12, 2021 Share #98 Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) I don’t see the point to be honest - of a 35 Noctilux, I mean. It’s just doing it because they can. If you consider that the limit at 90mm was the 90 Summilux at f/1.4, and the 75 Noctilux at f/1.25, that tells you something? Peter Karbe has said on a number of occasions that aperture is for depth of field, and has tried to design and make lenses with the same image quality across all apertures. He also seems to have decided that f/2 is a perfect lens, giving excellent, usable depth of field. Would an f/1 35 Noctilux fit with that? Maybe, but you’d end up with a largish lens (not sure why it would be that much bigger than the 50 Noctilux (apart frm the front element. But, would a 35mm lens with less than 1mm depth of field at 2 metres really be that useful? I can’t see myself having a need for such a lens, but who knows? I like my 21 & 28 Summiluxes … Edited September 12, 2021 by IkarusJohn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 12, 2021 Share #99 Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: I don’t see the point to be honest - of a 35 Noctilux, I mean. It’s just doing it because they can. If you consider that the limit at 90mm was the 90 Summilux at f/1.4, and the 75 Noctilux at f/1.25, that tells you something? Peter Karbe has said on a number of occasions that aperture is for depth of field, and has tried to design and make lenses with the same image quality across all apertures. He also seems to have decided that f/2 is a perfect lens, giving excellent, usable depth of field. Would an f/1 35 Noctilux fit with that? Maybe, but you’d end up with a largish lens (not sure why it would be that much bigger than the 50 Noctilux (apart frm the front element. But, would a 35mm lens with less than 1mm depth of field at 2 metres really be that useful? I can’t see myself having a need for such a lens, but who knows? I like my 21 & 28 Summiluxes … I can't compute it but 35/1.0 and 0,67mt would probably means 3 or 4 cm. DoF, not 1mm....and yes aperture nowadays, with digital bodies, is for creative composition only, and it'd marvellous to me. I often use a Summilux 24/1.4 and I seldom close it to 2.0. Bokeh, watercolor-like pictures... Noctilux lenses are almost perfect for this role. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted September 12, 2021 Share #100 Posted September 12, 2021 4 hours ago, adan said: Not quite as simple as 35mm f/1.0 = 35mm filter size. Especially with a wide-angle lens. The aperture deep inside may only need to be 35mm diameter to create f/1.0 - but the front elements need to be a lot bigger to take in light at the wider angle of view, without vignetting. And provide Leica-quality corrections for aberrations. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ok...you say E55 or E60 could be the minimum choice? ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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