stephengv Posted September 30, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 30, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am very excited to hear that Voigtlander will have a new 21mm Color Skopar. https://leicarumors.com/2018/09/29/two-new-voigtlander-m-mount-lenses-ultron-35mm-f-2-and-color-skopar-21mm-f-3-5.aspx/ I hope the "purple" side issues are solve haha. Anyone here excited? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 Hi stephengv, Take a look here New Voigtlander 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ko.Fe. Posted September 30, 2018 Share #2 Posted September 30, 2018 How deep is your rock? It was resolved with 21/4 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 30, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 30, 2018 Interesting indeed if it proves more compact than the SEM 21/3.4 asph. The "purple side" of the CV 21/4 is more a Leica than a CV issue BTW. Here on my A7s mod: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-PsXFGWM/0/01c54f5a/L/i-PsXFGWM-L.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 30, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 30, 2018 The hood looks good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 30, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 30, 2018 Interesting mount designs - no longer trying to look like Leica as the 21 f4 did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 30, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 30, 2018 Not sure how I feel about that 21/3.5. It isn't as compact as the CV 21/4, and with the hood on it seems to be approaching the 21 SEM in size. Unless it approaches the SEM in IQ as well I'm not sure what it provides in terms of options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted September 30, 2018 Share #7 Posted September 30, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very pleased to see it hasn't got a fixed hood like 15mm so could be used with Lee type filters. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted September 30, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 30, 2018 Very pleased to see it hasn't got a fixed hood like 15mm so could be used with Lee type filters. Plus the hood seems to be screwable in e39 , could fit the 21 SA 4 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 30, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 30, 2018 I would have preferred a vented hood like that of the ZM 21/2.8 personally but being an E39 lens, third party screw-in hoods should be easy to find hopefully. Compared to the SEM 21/3.4 asph, this CV 21/3.5 looks indeed more compact and its MFD of 0.5m vs 0.7m is as interesting as that of the CV 21/4. Not sure how readable the DoF markings can be on the curious chrome bottom ring though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengv Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted September 30, 2018 Very pleased to see it hasn't got a fixed hood like 15mm so could be used with Lee type filters. Exactly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 30, 2018 Share #11 Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) I wonder if that 21/3.5 hood is reversible. Edited September 30, 2018 by Mr.Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted September 30, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 30, 2018 The hood looks good. There is a hood like that available for the old 21/4, I have one somewhere but don't generally use it. It clamps on with a screw at the side. I wonder if its a new design, or the 3.5 is an 'imaginative' f/4 from the marketing dept. Interesting that they seem to have gone back to imitation Zeiss Contarex design Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted September 30, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 30, 2018 There is a hood like that available for the old 21/4, I have one somewhere but don't generally use it. It clamps on with a screw at the side. I wonder if its a new design, or the 3.5 is an 'imaginative' f/4 from the marketing dept. Interesting that they seem to have gone back to imitation Zeiss Contarex design Gerry Yes, the LH-1. It was made for the 21/4 and 25/4 (and the 28/3.5 LTM as well, IIRC). I have a couple somewhere too. The new hood for the 35/2 also looks very nice - this one is back to old Voigtlander designs. Likely no hood cap though, which will make accessing the lens cap a bit fiddly, especially if one has big fingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 30, 2018 Share #14 Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) The hood looks very similar to the LH-1 that was sold as an option to match the original CV 21mm f4 ltm (and the CV 25mm). The LH-1 hood was excellent but the 21mm f4 ltm lens was not. In my experience it was one of CV's early dogs and I got rid of mine very quickly, although some people seem to like it. CV have a more recent history of producing an extensive range of consistently good lenses and this new 21mm f3.5 might be worth another look as a small backpacking and travel option. Looking at the images linked to by the OP, it seems to be a leap ahead of the original ltm version in build quality. Edited September 30, 2018 by Ouroboros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted September 30, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 30, 2018 The hood looks very similar to the LH-1... From the images it looks quite massive. Does it not get in the way of an external viewfinder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 30, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 30, 2018 From the images it looks quite massive. Does it not get in the way of an external viewfinder? It is large but the original lens was very small and the hood didn't interfere with the external finder too much as I recall. My real point is that the LH-1 hood didn't stop the ltm 21mm f4 from flaring badly at every opportunity, which, coupled with the fact that it was never very sharp was my main reason for offloading the original CV 21mm f4 ltm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 30, 2018 Share #17 Posted September 30, 2018 The 21 f4 was known for sample variation, yet my copy was very good. I’ve had a few 20-21mm lenses and the VM was my favorite. On my M9, with the right profile and low ISO the edge coloration was usually not noticeable, and the M10 is better. I use it more on the M10 where the 020 EVF gives a good preview. I doubt if I’ll replace it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 30, 2018 Share #18 Posted September 30, 2018 I bought the ltm 21mm and the 28mm color-skopars together and the differences between the two lenses extend from materials and build quality to image quality throughout the aperture and distance ranges. It was difficult to believe they were both made by the same manufacturer, being so far apart in every way. I still have the CV 28mm, at like-for-like apertures and subject distances, it's not far behind my 28mm summicron asph and is good enough to always convince me that 'upgrading' my backpacking 28mm to the 28mm elmarit-m asph simply isn't worthwhile. To put some context into my experiences I use a Leica MP and not a digital Leica M camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted September 30, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 30, 2018 Yes, the LH-1. It was made for the 21/4 and 25/4 (and the 28/3.5 LTM as well, IIRC). I have a couple somewhere too. The new hood for the 35/2 also looks very nice - this one is back to old Voigtlander designs. Likely no hood cap though, which will make accessing the lens cap a bit fiddly, especially if one has big fingers. Yes the lack of a hood cap and the extra bulk is why I haven't used it much, I b8it whwn I had the 25 and kept it when I got the 21 later. Both were good on film, the 21 I still have not so good on non leica digital (although not TOO bad!) Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 1, 2018 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) ... I wonder if its a new design, or the 3.5 is an 'imaginative' f/4 from the marketing dept. ... Gerry According to specs, lenses' schema is different from the f4 Edited October 1, 2018 by luigi bertolotti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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