Vogue Squared Posted June 20, 2018 Share #1 Posted June 20, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Want to start out by saying I was referred to the German forum from the English one because he said there would be more knowledgable responses about possible history on the camera. Hi, everyone, I just joined the forums to see if anyone had much info on this camera I came across. Looking the numbers up on Google that were marked on the lenses and housing brought me here. The housing has a lens with the number 370759 0.32x etched on the lens. On the bottom it says Made in West Germany. It takes 35mm film. On the inside lid flap of the housing it has the numbers etched S13-101 and what appears to be the serial number 0331067 Next is the box body that has a cord plug on the top and the number 94 in yellow on each side. Also on the outside is a sticker that says 133 Last is the front piece and that has TL160 etched on the inner edge ring and on the other side Germany Thanks in advance for any help! I can also add more photos if need be. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/285767-mystery-west-germany-microscope-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3540815'>More sharing options...
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UliWer Posted June 20, 2018 Share #2 Posted June 20, 2018 The camera looks like a small size model for 35mm film comparable to the Rollei 35 or the Leica Cl. It seems to have a lightmeter, but I cannot find any devices to make use of it (shutter-speed etc.) It looks rather well built so one might think of a prototype from Voigtländer, Zeiss, Rollei or Japanese origin from the late 60s. I‘d rule out Leica since I cannot see anything which reminds me of any Leica design. Perhaps you can show photos of the top of the camera, and of the little window on the right rear side( just a film counter, or something else). The „lens“ is obviously no photographic lens; it looks more like a device to be used for reproduction or microscopic practice - also in prototype state. Can you seperate the lens from the camera body? Did you try to take photos with it? It would be interesting to see the results. I cannot even guess what the other device could be meant for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogue Squared Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted June 20, 2018 The camera looks like a small size model for 35mm film comparable to the Rollei 35 or the Leica Cl. It seems to have a lightmeter, but I cannot find any devices to make use of it (shutter-speed etc.) It looks rather well built so one might think of a prototype from Voigtländer, Zeiss, Rollei or Japanese origin from the late 60s. I‘d rule out Leica since I cannot see anything which reminds me of any Leica design. Perhaps you can show photos of the top of the camera, and of the little window on the right rear side( just a film counter, or something else). The „lens“ is obviously no photographic lens; it looks more like a device to be used for reproduction or microscopic practice - also in prototype state. Can you seperate the lens from the camera body? Did you try to take photos with it? It would be interesting to see the results. I cannot even guess what the other device could be meant for. Hi, thanks for the quick response. I have not taken photos with it at all. I believe it is a microscope type lens though. I attached more photos Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/285767-mystery-west-germany-microscope-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3540854'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 20, 2018 Share #4 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Uhm… the camera is little… I made a sight comparision with cameras like Dacora / Braun / Diax / Contina… it looks a bit smaller : no much more in width than the Rollei 35 quoted by Uliwer (at its time it established a sort of record for compact 35mm); haven't find a German camera with this look (that imho can be dated towards the end of '60s) … but haven't much documentation about ; anyway, it looks to have never had a focal plane shutter… probably it was deprived of its original lens with leaf shutter, substituted by that "sliding manual shutter" onto a bayonet mount... But there seems to be a shutter into the "box" : activated by ?? (electrically from the plug ??) ; indeed the front of the box looks like to be fit on a microscope or similar… but the "0,32x" on the lens could also be interpreted as a device to make reproductions of 75x112 mm plates… or (I do not know if it used to be a standard for microphotography) maybe it can be a "reduction ratio" for the nominal enlargement of the microscope to be attached… to say, if you have a 100x ocular on the microscope, the image on the negative is indeed 32x enlarged… Intriguing, anyway… I hope someone in the German forum can identify the camera body… from the finishing and the presence of lightmeter and view finder, it indeed looks a standard 35 mm economic camera (deprived of the shutter button, top right ? next to it there looks to be a std. cable release facility…) . Edited June 20, 2018 by luigi bertolotti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmax Posted June 21, 2018 Share #5 Posted June 21, 2018 Hm, this 'made in West Germany' is only a paper-sticker. Any engraving in the camera-body in that direction? Could it be Eastern Germany, too? I'm definitely no expert, but some things remind me to designs by 'Werra'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Böttcher Posted June 21, 2018 Share #6 Posted June 21, 2018 Related google finds for 370759: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LEITZ-WILD-0-32X-FOCAL-REDUCER-370759-35MM-MICROSCOPE-OPTICS-AS-IS-BIN-U8-43-/263709890325 https://midwestmicroscopeboneyard.com/products/leitz-wetzlar-microscope-camera-093-032-010-0-32x-370759 https://www.mikroskopie-forum.de/index.php?topic=25092.0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Böttcher Posted June 21, 2018 Share #7 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Regarding the camera, I'd rather search on the cheap end of the scale than on the Leica/Rollei end. Something close to this: http://www.kamera-geschichte.de/porst-135-auto-d/ Internals (chassis, take up spool, sprocket, pressure plate, ...) and rewind crank all plastics, selenium light meter or maybe just a fake / lookalike cover? Mid/late 70ies? Viewfinder cheaper than on Dacora Dignette. How about htis one? http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Regula_Rotor-S Edited June 21, 2018 by Jan Böttcher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogue Squared Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted June 21, 2018 Related google finds for 370759: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LEITZ-WILD-0-32X-FOCAL-REDUCER-370759-35MM-MICROSCOPE-OPTICS-AS-IS-BIN-U8-43-/263709890325 https://midwestmicroscopeboneyard.com/products/leitz-wetzlar-microscope-camera-093-032-010-0-32x-370759 https://www.mikroskopie-forum.de/index.php?topic=25092.0 Thanks for that, so I'm assuming the lens that has the 0.32x is a Leica lens? Or is that a standard font and exact match to the one on ebay but a different company? Even the TL160 on the edge of the front piece only brings up Leitz/Leica microscope photo tubes: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leitz-Microscope-Camera-Adapter-Extension-Tube-Germany-TL-160-/152930655393?nma=true&si=Aepg1vg9Rbd2gATSVtz2nWDReVo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmschuh Posted June 21, 2018 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2018 This camera was built in Pforzheim, Germany, by the company Regula King. This camera was distributed as Regula Picca C in German photo shops and as Revue 100 C by Foto-Quelle, an offshoot of a department store chain. This camera was also licensed to be made by the IOR camera company in Romania, even until 1989 after King itself had ceased trading. Foto-Quelle sold the complete series Picca C, CB, CLK and Picca-mat as Revue 100 C, 200 C, 300 C and 400 C, both in silver as well as in black. The model shown above was a conversion of the Picca C without lens. The original lens is a Color-Isconar which was used by several German camera builders. The lens came from ISCO Göttingen. ISCO Göttingen is a traditional German manufacturer of optical systems, especially lenses. From the very beginning, close relations existed with Jos. Schneider Optische Werke, Kreuznach. Today ISCO is integrated into the Schneider Group as ISK OPTICS GmbH. The adapter is a Microscope Camera Port Adaptor ("Fototubus") from Leitz Wetzlar TL-160 which has been extended with the square part with the DIN 5 connection. DIN connectors were formerly used for audio connections in Germany, but because they were standard, they were also used for all other purposes. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norma Posted July 6, 2018 Share #10 Posted July 6, 2018 This camera was built in Pforzheim, Germany, by the company Regula King. This camera was distributed as Regula Picca C in German photo shops and as Revue 100 C by Foto-Quelle, an offshoot of a department store chain. This camera was also licensed to be made by the IOR camera company in Romania, even until 1989 after King itself had ceased trading. Foto-Quelle sold the complete series Picca C, CB, CLK and Picca-mat as Revue 100 C, 200 C, 300 C and 400 C, both in silver as well as in black. The model shown above was a conversion of the Picca C without lens. The original lens is a Color-Isconar which was used by several German camera builders. The lens came from ISCO Göttingen. ISCO Göttingen is a traditional German manufacturer of optical systems, especially lenses. From the very beginning, close relations existed with Jos. Schneider Optische Werke, Kreuznach. Today ISCO is integrated into the Schneider Group as ISK OPTICS GmbH. The adapter is a Microscope Camera Port Adaptor ("Fototubus") from Leitz Wetzlar TL-160 which has been extended with the square part with the DIN 5 connection. DIN connectors were formerly used for audio connections in Germany, but because they were standard, they were also used for all other purposes. I saw it in one second that it is a Regula Picca camera, it were the first camera I have had when I were 13 years old, It had cost 100 German Marks, really a lot of money in 1977. I got the Picca from Foto Quelle and it were the 200C with the excellent Color Isconar 2.8/42mm. I remember the sound of the build in Prontor shutter untill today and I still have the slides I made with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardH Posted August 28, 2018 Share #11 Posted August 28, 2018 The lens mounts on a microscope mount, and usually uses a T-adapter to a camera back. The reducing lens mounts on the top of the stack shown. (plastic dust cover in place in the photo. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/285767-mystery-west-germany-microscope-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3581490'>More sharing options...
eckart Posted August 28, 2018 Share #12 Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Funny to see that. The Regular or in my case the Revue 100C was my first camera I bought by myself. I am born in 1960 and I think this must have been in the early seventies. Before I used the Box my uncle gave me, a very simple one, 6x9cm. The I liked the 100c because it looked like I could do something with the lens, but... It was very simple too. Fastest shutter time had been 1/300 and I think there had been just 3 possibilities to choose on one ring. You could go for the symbols, like sunny -sunny with clouds or cloudy, or the shutter speeds, which I did choose of course Edited August 28, 2018 by eckart 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd1959 Posted August 28, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Funny to see that. The Regular or in my case the Revue 100C was my first camera I bought by myself. I am born in 1960 and I think this must have been in the early seventies. Before I used the Box my uncle gave me, a very simple one, 6x9cm. The I liked the 100c because it looked like I could do something with the lens, but... It was very simple too. Fastest shutter time had been 1/300 and I think there had been just 3 possibilities to choose on one ring. You could go for the symbols, like sunny -sunny with clouds or cloudy, or the shutter speeds, which I did choose of course Fresh from the famous Leica showcase: the REVUE 100C Cost 1975, 65, - DM. The model with light meter 99, - DM. Shot on by school trip in Berlin 1975. It was my first full-frame camera. Gruß Bernd Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 28, 2018 by Bernd1959 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/285767-mystery-west-germany-microscope-camera/?do=findComment&comment=3581638'>More sharing options...
eckart Posted August 28, 2018 Share #14 Posted August 28, 2018 Quasi die Einstiegsdroge zur M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd1959 Posted August 29, 2018 Share #15 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Quasi die Einstiegsdroge zur M Irgendwie schon. Ich hatte ja mal für Leica die Idee die beliebte X-Serie mit ihren Festbrennweiten mit einem hochwertigen Glassucher mit Parallaxenausgleich in ein so schönes Gehäuse zu verbauen. Aber war ihnen wohl zu kompliziert das hin zu bekommen oder der 400€ Olympus-Sucher war ihnen als Zusatzeinnahme wichtiger. Wie man sieht gab es früher so etwas ab 65,-- DM. Gruß Bernd Edited August 29, 2018 by Bernd1959 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Böttcher Posted August 29, 2018 Share #16 Posted August 29, 2018 Früher, früher trugen die Spatzen noch Gamaschen und die Kartoffeln wurden mit 'nem Lasso gefangen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apo-Elmarit Posted August 31, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 31, 2018 aber nur nördlich des Mittellandkanals... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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