Ugly lens flare!

[helged]

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Yes, lens hood was on, but i've seen this anomaly in the "image thread, #1097" that another photographer had posted using the 11- 23mm. I'd be curious if the 35mm t 1.4 did the same thing. This is by far the ugliest lens flare of any lens i've used. Perhaps the German lenses are better? Great lens, just don't point it at the sun unless you like this ugly effect. 

 

 

With a link, for direct access to the mentioned photo...

Edited April 3, 2018 by helged

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[jmahto]

Ugly lens flare with no filter. It's the weird symmetrical pattern around the flare that really is ugly.

Since it is so symmetrical, my guess is that it is coming from sensor.

 

Do the following test. Take more than one picture by slightly moving the camera between shots. If the "ghost dots" are in the same place relative to Sun then it is coming from the sensor. If the dots move around (distance, stretch, direction etc. etc.) then it is from the lens.

[Jdphoto]

 

If someone who owns the 35mm 1.4 TL lens could shoot into the sun to look for this phenomena. I'd be curious if it's in the lens manufacture or components of the Japanese made TL lenses. The symmetrical patterns imo, don't suggest a sensor array. Perhaps, I could rent the 35mm 1.4 because I'm certainly not buying anymore TL lenses if they all flare like this.

[lct]

Never seen an optical flare like that with any lens or body so far and my CL doesn't seem to produce those ghost images with M lenses either so TL lenses and/or the way the firmware tortures err improves them could well be the culprits. I may be completely wrong though but i would warn Leica about that if i were a TL user.

 

 

 

[Jdphoto]

 

 

Never seen an optical flare like that with any lens or body so far and my CL doesn't seem to produce those ghost images with M lenses either so TL lenses and/or the way the firmware tortures err improves them could well be the culprits. I may be completely wrong though but i would warn Leica about that if i were a TL user.

Agreed, thanks for the input! I've yet to complain to Leica about their digital products. What would be the most effective way of contacting them?

[lct]

Never complained so far but i would ask the moderators.

[jaapv]

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It looks exactly the same as the flare exhibited by early zoom lenses; video cameras will still do this. It is doubled or quadrupled by the use of a filter.

[Jdphoto]

Yes, but this is a prime lens. As mentioned before, I've never encountered this kind of flare with any lens from any manufacture ever! 

[jaapv]

Yes, but it is still a multi-element lens. Have you communicated with Leica about this?

[Jdphoto]

No, not yet. I'm waiting on my dealer to send info to connect to the right source at Leica.

[jaapv]

You can find it on Leica's website:

 

https://en.leica-camera.com/Contact

 

Enter "Germany" as your country.

[Jdphoto]

Thanks Jaap, I did contact them here in the U.S.

[PDP]

I had the same result without filter, just these ugly red dots around the sun. With the 11-23mm lens.

Something for a firmware update???

Philipp

[earleygallery]

So the filter was innocent after all, yet sent to the gallows immediately by most! Such prejudice

Edited July 2, 2018 by earleygallery

[carl_b]

I get the same with the my 11-23mm on the CL. Have to resort to photoshop to minimize it.

 

I could break out the 21mm SEM, see what that does into the sun. That has never done this on the SE or the M240.

[AlanD]

https://photographylife.com/fuji-x-trans-flare-ghosting-issue

 

Could be this.

[lct]

Probably both sensor flare + lens flare here. Kolari Vision tries to reduce sensor flare with its "hot spot" filters if i'm not mistaken. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by lct

[wlaidlaw]

Presumably as you would have been using very small apertures, could it be a diffraction effect? 

 

Wilson

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[jaapv]

Interesting link  According to the author the whole issue has nothing to do with camera, lens or brand, but with the flange distance. Which should mean that M, or, even better, R lenses show the issue to a lesser extent.

[jaapv]

Probably both sensor flare + lens flare here. Kolari Vision tries to reduce sensor flare with its "hot spot" filters if i'm not mistaken. 

A hot spot is something quite different. In IR photography some lenses will exhibit extreme vignetting. That has to do with the lens design not being adapted to IR light.

Obviously Kolari will address the issue for their IR conversions.