roverover Posted July 28, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Q: Are the M lenses in the M10 Lens Detection menu all non-coded lenses? I was perusing the list and i don't see some current M lenses listed there and wanted to understand why. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 Hi roverover, Take a look here M10 Lens Detection Menu. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cp995 Posted July 28, 2017 Share #2 Posted July 28, 2017 Yes, there's no need to apply profiles to a still coded lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 28, 2017 Share #3 Posted July 28, 2017 So how do you tell the M which lens you’re using with a macro or other adapter or extension tube or is this not necessary? I recently used the macro-adapter-M and the menu said it was an M to R adapter! So instead I selected the closest match to the lens I was using from those available in the list. Is this wrong or is there a need to have current coded lenses in the menu after all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted July 28, 2017 Share #4 Posted July 28, 2017 Macro-adapter M has a different code than M-R adapter. With the M-R adapter you have a selection of R lenses to choose from. You don't with the Macro-Adapter M. Neither adapter has the ability to read codes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted July 28, 2017 Yes, there's no need to apply profiles to a still coded lens OK, Understood, thank you. Curious, when using an M mount lens from another manufacturer, should lens detection be turned OFF in that scenario? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 28, 2017 Share #6 Posted July 28, 2017 OK, Understood, thank you. Curious, when using an M mount lens from another manufacturer, should lens detection be turned OFF in that scenario? Yes. At best if you want lens information you could select something close to that lens from the menu. It's probably good to experiment and see if any corrections applied would give you a negative effect. I forget where I saw it but there is a crossover chart for some Voigtlaander and Zeiss lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverover Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted July 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes. At best if you want lens information you could select something close to that lens from the menu. It's probably good to experiment and see if any corrections applied would give you a negative effect. I forget where I saw it but there is a crossover chart for some Voigtlaander and Zeiss lenses. Thank You. So with coded Leica lenses, is the camera actually making some internal modifications or corrections for each lens or it it more just providing exif data and such, i understand there is no aperture readings given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 28, 2017 Share #8 Posted July 28, 2017 Thank You. So with coded Leica lenses, is the camera actually making some internal modifications or corrections for each lens or it it more just providing exif data and such, i understand there is no aperture readings given. As I understand it makes certain corrections for some lenses. Mainly wide angle from 35mm and wider. I don't think it does anything to 50 and longer. Vignetting, slight color cast and some distortion is what was reported some time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted August 16, 2017 Share #9 Posted August 16, 2017 Again a question about the Macro-Adapter and the R-Adapter M in the lens detection menu of the M 10: Both are coded, so one expects the code being recognized by Auto Lens Detection - thereafter you could choose the R-lens which you use manually from the menu; with the Macro-Adapter the auto lens detection should choose the combination with the Macro Elmar, which is the obvious choice in the menu. But Auto Lens Detection doesn't recognize the codes of the adapters. With the Macro-Adapter I get only the result "uncoded" - which is not true, since the adapter is coded. Going to the manual menue for M lenses, the combination Macro-Adapter+Macro Elmar is indicated, but I can't choose it. The response when I click on it remains "uncoded". Somewhat different for the R-Adapter M: When I go to the manual for R-lenses, I can choose the proper lens from the menu and it stays. Other users of the adapters have the same experience? How is it with the M 240 - does it recognize the adapters' codes automatically? Can you at least choose the the lens detection for the Macro-Adapter+Macro Elmar manually? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam K Posted August 17, 2017 Share #10 Posted August 17, 2017 I'm annoyed not to find the original 35mm Summilux on the list 'in-camera'. The newer, aspheric, 35mm 'luxes have more distortion and I don't wish to have 'correction' applied when not required, so I use the 35mm f2 option - but I would rather have a specific setting. I seem to remember that the original 35mm Summilux appeared on the Manual list on earlier cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 17, 2017 Share #11 Posted August 17, 2017 I don't think any Leica in-camera profile applies distortion corrections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted August 20, 2017 Share #12 Posted August 20, 2017 2 Questions if anyone might be able to help me. 1) When I mount my 6 bit 35mm summicron, my 10 does not change the previous profile applied (I have a non 6 bit 50mm summicron). I try choosing "Auto" but it doesn't seem to do anything. If I choose it manually, fine, but I shot pictures with my 6 bit 35mm where the Exif reads the 50mm I had chosen previously. I thought this shouldn't happen? I just got my M10 so I'm hoping it's a user error of some sort and that it's not at fault off the bat. 2) There are a few options for the 50mm/2 in the profile list - how do I find the model number of lens listed to choose the correct setting? I have the pull out hood version (latest non 6 bit). I don't see anything on the lens itself aside from the serial. Thanks for any thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted August 20, 2017 Share #13 Posted August 20, 2017 Current 50mm Summicrom is an 11826 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted August 20, 2017 Share #14 Posted August 20, 2017 ... 1) When I mount my 6 bit 35mm summicron, my 10 does not change the previous profile applied (I have a non 6 bit 50mm summicron). I try choosing "Auto" but it doesn't seem to do anything. If I choose it manually, fine, but I shot pictures with my 6 bit 35mm where the Exif reads the 50mm I had chosen previously. I thought this shouldn't happen? I just got my M10 so I'm hoping it's a user error of some sort and that it's not at fault off the bat. ... Usually lens detection should switch automatically from a manually choosen lens from the list to the new lens you attach, if this lens is coded. This is new for the M10, but there are bugs in the software. Can you tell us which code your 35mm Summicron shows? And do you have Firmware 1.9.4.0, when you look in the menu under "Camera Information"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted August 20, 2017 Share #15 Posted August 20, 2017 My 35mm summicron doesn't trigger anything in the camera - the lens stays set at whatever I had set it on previously (in this case the 50/2). I do have firmware 1.9.4.0 - I just got the camera - manufactured 8/06/17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted August 20, 2017 Share #16 Posted August 20, 2017 The code of your 35mm Summicron should be 011110 if it is the asph. version. Are you sure the lens is properly attached with a click and the code isn't blurred by anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted August 20, 2017 Share #17 Posted August 20, 2017 My 35mm summicron doesn't trigger anything in the camera - the lens stays set at whatever I had set it on previously (in this case the 50/2). I do have firmware 1.9.4.0 - I just got the camera - manufactured 8/06/17The same with my coded Elmar 24.I should ship my M10 to Wetzlar to be set up but for the moment I do not have much desire to separate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 20, 2017 Share #18 Posted August 20, 2017 Start off by cleaning the interface and renewing the paint, using matte. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted August 20, 2017 Share #19 Posted August 20, 2017 The interface is clean and the Elmar 24 is recognized by the M10 of the Leica store of my town. Furthermore my M10 doesn't see the Elmar 24 of the Leica store while recognizes all my lenses, also those I've modified, so I think there is no doubt that it is a mistake of my camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stein K S Posted August 21, 2017 Share #20 Posted August 21, 2017 The interface is clean and the Elmar 24 is recognized by the M10 of the Leica store of my town. Furthermore my M10 doesn't see the Elmar 24 of the Leica store while recognizes all my lenses, also those I've modified, so I think there is no doubt that it is a mistake of my camera. I experience the same thing with my 24 Elmarit asph produced in 1998 and now coded. All of my other coded lenses works except this one on my new M10. However, the very same 24 works on M10 bodies at the Leica Store. The 6-bit coding really looks like new. Last firmware installed. Really irritating! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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