peckermeister Posted May 3, 2019 Share #121 Posted May 3, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) My M-E Hardware IDs screen shows: CCD ID: 16 CCD Board ID: 2 Control BRD ID: 9 M16C ID:0 The sensor was replaced in 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P_Wijk Posted October 13, 2019 Share #122 Posted October 13, 2019 Interesting thread, I’m in thoughts to buy an addition M9 or M9-P to bring along with my m10. batch code 15 sound promising as verification before purchase. How much is it to change censor today in Europe [EU] cheers Per Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tardegard Posted October 13, 2019 Share #123 Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, P_Wijk said: Interesting thread, I’m in thoughts to buy an addition M9 or M9-P to bring along with my m10. batch code 15 sound promising as verification before purchase. How much is it to change censor today in Europe [EU] cheers Per A lot: should be around 1k euros. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted October 13, 2019 Share #124 Posted October 13, 2019 In France, it costs 1500€ or more for M9 sensor replacement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Wijk Posted October 14, 2019 Share #125 Posted October 14, 2019 20 hours ago, a.noctilux said: In France, it costs 1500€ or more for M9 sensor replacement. Hi a.noctilux [nice name :)] What fo you believe is a proper value for a M9-P that has Censor issue? (time for censor change is of no issue) cheers Per Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted October 14, 2019 Share #126 Posted October 14, 2019 Hello Per, I don't know for the value of a M9-P in your country and for you as buyer. The most effective way is to go to a Leica Store or Leica dealer to have the cost of the sensor replacement. Then add the cost of the M9-P with sensor issue, after that decide if the value is right. As side note, I'd not buy a M9 with sensor issue, as Leica Camera Wetzlar offer for sale refurbished M9 with warranty, have a look here (link) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoWitte Posted October 15, 2019 Share #127 Posted October 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 5/16/2017 at 11:06 PM, pico said: Trying to determine CCD update. I had no success but perhaps someone smarter than I can help here. This applies to firmware: 1.210 Do this with a freshly charged battery. For the M9 there is a service menu which can be brought up as follows. Power on Delete -> up (2x) -> down (4x) -> left (3x) -> right (3x) -> Info This shows the service menu. Scroll down and up using the arrow buttons. Press Set to select an item Gently press the shutter release to leave item. Press Info again for the menu Under Hardware IDS, I get this on one M9 CCD ID: 8 CCD Board: 2 Control BRD: 2 M16CID: 0 For another M9 (same firmware) I see CCD ID: 5 CCD Board: 2 Control BRD: 2 M16CID: 0 This means nothing to me. There is much more. I have not tried active tests for fear of messing up. Some of the items are quite interesting and it would be great if others could contribute. Interesting: Color Shading (on/off) Black Shading (normal, always on, always off) and others ... my battery died here. I would like to know what you can change with the Black or Color Shading settings On 5/16/2017 at 11:06 PM, pico said: Trying to determine CCD update. I had no success but perhaps someone smarter than I can help here. This applies to firmware: 1.210 Do this with a freshly charged battery. For the M9 there is a service menu which can be brought up as follows. Power on Delete -> up (2x) -> down (4x) -> left (3x) -> right (3x) -> Info This shows the service menu. Scroll down and up using the arrow buttons. Press Set to select an item Gently press the shutter release to leave item. Press Info again for the menu Under Hardware IDS, I get this on one M9 CCD ID: 8 CCD Board: 2 Control BRD: 2 M16CID: 0 For another M9 (same firmware) I see CCD ID: 5 CCD Board: 2 Control BRD: 2 M16CID: 0 This means nothing to me. There is much more. I have not tried active tests for fear of messing up. Some of the items are quite interesting and it would be great if others could contribute. Interesting: Color Shading (on/off) Black Shading (normal, always on, always off) and others ... my battery died here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maitoparta Posted May 16, 2021 Share #128 Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Have these values and the Leica M9 going strong. CCD ID: 11 CCD Board: 2 Control BRD: 2 M16CID: 0 Edited May 16, 2021 by maitoparta 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansch Posted June 6, 2021 Share #129 Posted June 6, 2021 Consider purchasing this M9 with these sensor IDs. Is it fairly confident that this is the new gen sensor? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272556-determining-new-sensor-m9/?do=findComment&comment=4214615'>More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 6, 2021 Share #130 Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, ansch said: Consider purchasing this M9 with these sensor IDs. Is it fairly confident that this is the new gen sensor? Mine, which has the new sensor shows 15, 2, 2, 0 The seller should be able to provide you with a document showing the sensor was changed but if not, the best way to determine which sensor is in a particular body is to send an email to Leica support with the camera serial number. They know. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansch Posted June 20, 2021 Share #131 Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 7:28 PM, ansch said: Consider purchasing this M9 with these sensor IDs. Is it fairly confident that this is the new gen sensor? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Contacted Leica and can confirmed that the new type sensor was replaced in Feb 2017. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 22, 2021 Share #132 Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 2:30 PM, ianman said: The seller should be able to provide you with a document showing the sensor was changed but if not, the best way to determine which sensor is in a particular body is to send an email to Leica support with the camera serial number. They know. See this post right above yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbonde Posted September 19, 2021 Share #133 Posted September 19, 2021 On 5/18/2017 at 9:05 PM, Chris said: OK, so far the thesis seems to hold true. CCD ID 5 = Old M9 Sensor CCD ID 8 = ? Maybe new M9 Sensor as well CCD ID 15 = New M9 Sensor @ pico: Is there a new leatherette on the camera sold as a new sensor? (The one you are not sure about) Still to little data for a MM thesis. CCD ID 52 could mean "monochrome version of ccd id 5". But this is just a wild guess. Any more data? 🙂 Does this apply for the m9-p aswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Miller Posted October 23, 2021 Share #134 Posted October 23, 2021 When Leica did the free replacement was it a new type of sensor not prone to corrosion or just a replacement piece of the same, original design sensor? How about when they started charging for replacements.... same old style or a new, improved sensor replacement? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted October 23, 2021 Share #135 Posted October 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, Anthony Miller said: When Leica did the free replacement was it a new type of sensor not prone to corrosion or just a replacement piece of the same, original design sensor? How about when they started charging for replacements.... same old style or a new, improved sensor replacement? Thanks When the program first started they replaced with the same type of sensor but then quickly moved on to the new sensor which is not prone to corrosion. now all replacement sensors have been exhausted and some 3rd party repair shops have found a way to replace the 'cover glass only' on affected sensors. Some will say the old sensor produced a more desirable image and that the new sensor was a bit 'flat'. I have an M9M with the new sensor and it is gorgeous, my M9 had a corroded sensor and is away having the cover glass replaced. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Miller Posted October 27, 2021 Share #136 Posted October 27, 2021 My fear is getting an M9 where the replaced sensor is the same as the original and having it corrode. A newer one may not have the same character as you have mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted October 28, 2021 Share #137 Posted October 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Anthony Miller said: My fear is getting an M9 where the replaced sensor is the same as the original and having it corrode. A newer one may not have the same character as you have mentioned. I have owned both new and old and to be honest there is little or no difference really. The only main issue to be concerned with is that the camera is becoming harder to find parts etc but I think we may see a few corroded sensor bodies on eBay for parts, just depends on how adventurous you are. I have an M9 and M9M and I will try to keep hold of them both. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappan Posted November 15, 2021 Share #138 Posted November 15, 2021 Just rehashing this ONE MORE time 🙂 Mine reads: CCD ID:15 CCD Board ID: 2 Control Board ID: 9 M16C ID: 0 Unfortunately, I lost my invoice from my sensor replacement repair from a few years ago. I emailed Leica NJ today with my M9-P's serial number and they could not find the repair. Oh well, don't lose things, right? This is only coming now because I want to sell the camera. Hope everybody is doing well. Best, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tappan Posted November 18, 2021 Share #139 Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 6:22 PM, tappan said: Just rehashing this ONE MORE time 🙂 Mine reads: CCD ID:15 CCD Board ID: 2 Control Board ID: 9 M16C ID: 0 Unfortunately, I lost my invoice from my sensor replacement repair from a few years ago. I emailed Leica NJ today with my M9-P's serial number and they could not find the repair. Oh well, don't lose things, right? This is only coming now because I want to sell the camera. Hope everybody is doing well. Best, Mark Update to my rehashing update 🙂 Leica officials now tell me that I have the newest replacement sensor. (see above sensor numbers/info) Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 18, 2021 Share #140 Posted November 18, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 12:52 PM, Marac said: I have owned both new and old and to be honest there is little or no difference really. One thing I've noticed with the new one is how much less dust it seems to attract. With the old sensor, I had to clean it for just about every outing. Since I got the new one in 2016 I may have cleaned it twice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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