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New Leica M 240 follow-up in 2017 : The speculations.

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edwardkaraa

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So is this the desperation and mental breakdown phase that follows the non announcement of a product? Hopefully no suicides please because we can't afford to loose more of our dining members at the risk of Leica not finding it profitable enough to make a new M ;)

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Hello Paulus,

 

What I was trying to say in my Post above is that the largest part of an "M" camera can pretty much stay the same for a very long time. 

 

It is the electronic components & their created images that have limitations to their longevity. Because of these limitations with digital components Leica might want to consider making a camera in which the digital components are modular & therefore replaceable or upgradeable as appropriate over time.

 

Sort of like a Hasselblad 500C with the digital components in a detachable back.

 

Best Regards,

 

Michael

 

 

I would welcome a modular M camera.  Seems wasteful to throw away perfectly functional rangefinder and chassis because a low cost electronic component is no longer available.  Likely profitable for Leica too.  Selling sensor modules for upgrade could have considerable profit margin.  

 

Aligning the sensor to the camera precisely seems like a daunting task.  Perhaps the digital rangefinder concept we read about from the patent office self calibrates to compensate?

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Paulus

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Why should Leica produce another M?  Numerous posts in the M thread by die hard M users suggest it is not needed.  Further, the large number of M users moving to the SL is a much larger market opportunity for Leica to make money with new lenses and more flexibility in product design.  In the meantime they have a cash cow in the M until the market dies (or at least its adherents). :)  Why invest more money in a dining market when the SL offers a completely new and expanded market that actually may cost them less to manufacture and which they can sell for a higher price?  Maybe Leica will throw the M die hards one last bone but I wouldn't suggest holding ones breath in waiting. :)

I would not mind it when this body is the last M body Leica makes.

 

As long as it makes sensor and memory updates and keep all the parts in stock for 30 years, it's allright with me. ( They promsed this with the MP also, so why not? )

 

On a more personal level I want to ask,  if you are in the posession of an M camera. It would be nice to know if the " thinkers of this direction " also are owners or former owners of an M. IMHO it's more easy to dismiss the thought of "never another M " more easily if you never owned one. Maybe the old users have a reason which is not mentioned above to keep buying an M.

 

As in James Bond, it's hardly possible to replace M by another letter.   

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Belle123

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There is no Doomsday edition announced yet.

Who said anything about Doomsday? Ha! Why can't people be content with the M? Only reason for the variations up until now was digital was still growing and improving. Now it has matured. If digital hadn't developed so fast, I would still be shooting with an M6 and be quite satisfied. Used to be many of us bought a camera for life! The M240 is a camera you could be satisfied with. But I am enjoying the progression of other systems. Next purchase is medium format. Done upgrading my M camera..... Most likely........one can never say never.

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Paulus

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The M (Typ 240) – including its variations – is the latest M so far. I have no idea what the last M might be.

Looking at  the :

 

 

I can only think, that Leica will keep the M for a while....

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Paulus

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I want to forget about the M8 rather than celebrating, from time to time I still have nightmares about those filters   :D

Leica had to begin somewhere? I'm glad that they did. Maybe if they didn't, we still would be only making photos with dslr.

 

I am glad they made the M8. For one thing: Every used Leica lens almost doubled in value a few years after the M8. The whole system was on the verge of breaking down. Without the M8 there would not be an M 240 today.  The filters were a non issue IMHO. I still use them. ;)

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Giulio Zanni

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Maybe if they didn't, we still would be only making photos with dslr.

 

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Or with the Epson RD-1.....after 20 years of Leica and a couple of months with the M8, I went back to the 5D, which files were waaaay better. I skipped the M9 and came back with the Monochrom 246s and, now we are talking.....
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This is what I did after 20 years of Leica and a couple of months with the M8. I went back to the 5D, which files were waaaay better. 

 

Your M8 must not have been working properly (an early version camera/firmware, or maybe you hacked your 5D and removed the AA filter).

 

I still keep my M8.2 as back-up to my M240, and use the latter primarily due to improvements with the RF, quietness, better build, weather sealing, etc. The M8.2 files are still superb.  Files from both cameras can result in luscious prints, if I do my job well.  

 

IR cut filters were never an issue...put them on and forget them (except for night lights)....many here still use them on the M9 and/or M240 for better results (see multiple threads).

 

Different strokes.

 

Jeff

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I don't think sensor technology has reached the zenith yet.  New sensor technologies will require different processors and different ideas on how best to utilize them.  In 2 to 3 years we could have a new sensor available that makes the current Bayer technology seem primitive and old school.  Even film technology changed over the years but it was easier to deal with because it worked in the same cameras for the most part.  Sensors are a different story.  New processors and new software.  Display technology will change too.  Organic sensors and curved sensors may also call for changes to lens design.  Maybe smaller faster focusing and faster speed lenses will become possible.  We live in interesting times.

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I don't think sensor technology has reached the zenith yet.  New sensor technologies will require different processors and different ideas on how best to utilize them.  In 2 to 3 years we could have a new sensor available that makes the current Bayer technology seem primitive and old school.  Even film technology changed over the years but it was easier to deal with because it worked in the same cameras for the most part.  Sensors are a different story.  New processors and new software.  Display technology will change too.  Organic sensors and curved sensors may also call for changes to lens design.  Maybe smaller faster focusing and faster speed lenses will become possible.  We live in interesting times.

 

http://www.livescience.com/37038-graphene-imagining-sensor-takes-clear-pictures.html

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