Robclarke Posted August 9, 2016 Share #1 Posted August 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have recently bought a Leica M3 and have run a couple of films through it and have thoroughly enjoyed using it. I have owned an M6ttl for a number of years. As far as I can tell it all works great but I am not sure the film advance is as smooth as I have read about (but this could be a myth). Also there is a bit of dust or something in the viewfinder which is not really a problem in use. I would quite like to get it CLA'd just to know it is working as well as it can. I was just wondering what the general opinion of getting a cla on a camera that is working ok, is it completely unnecessary? I was thinking of using Aperture in London as I can get to them easily have used them in the past for Hasselblad repairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 Hi Robclarke, Take a look here Leica M3 new to me should I get it CLA'd?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
a.noctilux Posted August 9, 2016 Share #2 Posted August 9, 2016 CLA could be a good thing, if in your possession, the M3 has never been CLA. Each time that an M came back from a CLA, I couldn't believe how joyful was the clean finder and the feeling of controls. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 9, 2016 Share #3 Posted August 9, 2016 Personally, if the camera is working OK then I'd just carry on using it. Save the CLA until it needs it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted August 9, 2016 Share #4 Posted August 9, 2016 I'm not a fan of a CLA unless there is an indication that it truly needs it. Having said that a couple of years ago I picked up a Canon P (LTM mount) which seemed in perfect shape, good shutter timings, viewfinder alignment,etc. except that the film advance lever was noisier than I thought it should be...so I took the plunge and had it CLA'd. The repairperson told me that the lube had completely dried out and when I got it back it was as smooth as my M and other LTM bodies. So you need to go with your gut feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenzoLandini Posted August 9, 2016 Share #5 Posted August 9, 2016 Rob, Generally speaking a CLA doesn't hurt, it gets everything checked, clean and more importantly lubricated. Often oil dries up and generate more friction among the components resulting in an increasing wear and tear. To the extent that you trust your repair shop andyou're confident that they will do a good job, I will do it. One reason for not doing it though is that the M3s have a Leica seal that would need to be broken in order to perform the CLA. If your M3 still has the original "L" seal and the camera seems ok, then I would perhaps not do a CLA for the sake of doing it because the seal proves that is in perfect original conditions. Cheers, Lorenzo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted August 9, 2016 Share #6 Posted August 9, 2016 If it works leave it alone, in my opinion the fewer times a camera is messed with the better. What's the worst that can happen its stops working and you have to get it fixed. A couple of years ago I paid £130 for a shutter to repaired and a new base for an m4p probably the same price you will pay for a cla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted August 10, 2016 Share #7 Posted August 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) If the "L" has been broken already, i would get a CLA. How do you know the shutter speeds are all accurate within tolerance? And that the RF mechanism is perfectly aligned? Or that the gears dont need lubricating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted August 10, 2016 Share #8 Posted August 10, 2016 Get it CLAd by a known Leica expert, then use it as hard as you can for as long as film is readily available. If you feel it should be smoother, you are probably right. It should feel smooooooth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robclarke Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted August 10, 2016 There are an interesting range of opinions thank you all for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 10, 2016 Share #10 Posted August 10, 2016 If the "L" has been broken already, i would get a CLA. How do you know the shutter speeds are all accurate within tolerance? And that the RF mechanism is perfectly aligned? Or that the gears dont need lubricating? The OP has said he's shot a few rolls and everything's working fine. If the shutter wasn't accurate resulting in poor exposures or the rangefinder was off resulting in out of focus images then I'd agree with having a CLA of course. But as it's working fine leave it alone. To the OP - I'm sure the guy at Aperture would give you a 2nd opinion on the film advance if you drop by with the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 10, 2016 Share #11 Posted August 10, 2016 There is no point getting it serviced if it works. It is a lot of money, the camera is away for a long time, and the OP may as well discover all the problems (if there are any) before sending it for proper repair, otherwise all it gets is a CLA. A CLA alone will not address a myriad of potential faults, and the only way to know if you have those faults is to use the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted August 10, 2016 Share #12 Posted August 10, 2016 I'm sure I am the most ignorant person on this thread (and probably also the biggest sucker), and for these reasons I would handsomely pay the $180 or so that it costs for someone to tell me that the shutters are accurate and the RF is in alignment. Other than trying all of the shutter speeds, having the film processed and then conducting controlled experiments (the effort and time needed is alone worth much more than $180), I would really never know whether any sub-optimal results are due to me or the camera or my meter (I would probably blame the camera or the meter). As for the RF alignment, film is much more forgiving than digital and so any misalignment may not even be easily apparent, and one may not know for sure until the correction is made. So I'm on the other end of the spectrum - when in doubt get it checked out!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robclarke Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share #13 Posted August 10, 2016 Thanks again everyone. I did look at the seal and it seems to be a b rather than an l. I think I will talk to Aperture and see if they think it is worth getting a service and if they can improve the film advance smoothness and remove the viewfinder dust. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robclarke Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share #14 Posted August 10, 2016 Just to update. I took it to aperture and they said that they didn't think it needed a service. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted August 10, 2016 Share #15 Posted August 10, 2016 Good news and it also demonstrates how honest they are... Ernst 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys Posted August 10, 2016 Share #16 Posted August 10, 2016 Agree - very honest! I have received good reports about their workmanship too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted February 10, 2022 Share #17 Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/10/2016 at 8:30 AM, Robclarke said: Just to update. I took it to aperture and they said that they didn't think it needed a service. Who are these folks, Aperture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 10, 2022 Share #18 Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, kivis said: Who are these folks, Aperture? A camera shop that has it's own repair workshop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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