Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1041 Posted January 1, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Guys Like my original post, the guy from Ffordes in Scotland which is now a Hasselblad dealer told me that there will be no built in GPS in the X1D because they can't get it to fit...........All this Cuba/China BS is exactly that ......BS. He also mentioned to me this morning that the American model will have the shutter button on the left side of the camera rather than the right side as "they are all a bunch of dodgy characters" on the west side of the pond............I happen to agree :) Happy new years Love Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter H Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1042 Posted January 1, 2017 Guys Like my original post, the guy from Ffordes in Scotland which is now a Hasselblad dealer told me that there will be no built in GPS in the X1D because they can't get it to fit...........All this Cuba/China BS is exactly that ......BS. He also mentioned to me this morning that the American model will have the shutter button on the left side of the camera rather than the right side as "they are all a bunch of dodgy characters" on the west side of the pond............I happen to agree :) Happy new years Love Neil It's January 1st not April 1st! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1043 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Confirmed the X1Ds GPS module will sit on top of the hot shoe and is not built in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's nice that you showed this. Not so nice that these are the facts. It's one more time a point where I would say - they had us. As anybody reading the specs had the clear impresssion it is built-in. And now they act as if this never was the case. Not tragic, but still gives a "crooked" impression. One more time. And makes you wonder what surprise comes next. The camera looks nice anyway, the lenses not so much (especially compared to the older Zeiss glass, just an impression from the outside, not referring to IQ). The images look great - though not better than a FF with the same 50MP. What I hate about these videos is the way they compare camera sizes. It's really like second class adds. Any normal person sees - the camera body is nice and slim, the lenses terribly fat and bulky (maybe not heavy, but so what, there is only very little glass in them). And the DSLR has a heavy ugly body but slim lenses. But they throw both into one basket and say it is of equal size. That's simply BS. For a "fair" comparison they could have taken a smallish model (D750, 60D), but of course they did not want to have this impression. That small camera would still have been much faster and more agile than the X1D. Just imagine a small DSLR with 70mm lens (even 90 if you want). Anybody sees that, but they try to deny it ? Obviously they think we are stupid .... I hate that they try to sell very high end equipment with very low end car-dealer tricks. The X1D is smaller and lighter than most midrange cameras. But it is just as slow and precise and "grown-up" as all the other midrange cameras. Is this bad ? No, that is simply why you choose a midrange camera. It is the different approach that produces different images. In these films they compare it with cameras for action and wildlife photography. - simply because this fits better the modern life-style. And the X1D has no "anti-shake", so it needs more care and planning and maybe even a tripod to get the best IQ. So simply forget all the comparisons with FF or even APS-C. It's only marketing. Edited January 1, 2017 by steppenw0lf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1044 Posted January 1, 2017 Confirmed the X1Ds GPS module will sit on top of the hot shoe and is not built in I can live with that, presumably the GPS comes with the camera and is not an optional cost extra....... I pray they leave the shutter button where it is on the right-hand side!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1045 Posted January 1, 2017 Being left handed, the left handed shutter button does not bother me..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1046 Posted January 1, 2017 I pray they leave the shutter button where it is on the right-hand side!!!!!!!Lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1047 Posted January 1, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Being left handed, the left handed shutter button does not bother me..... It would give me a headache....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1048 Posted January 1, 2017 Good video. I have no complaints about it, and it proved informative as to what's come about since the announcement. The shape and arrangement of the body has been fixed for a very long time now so I wouldn't worry about the shutter release moving to the other side of the body ... I suspect they wanted to put the GPS in the body originally but had problems with the antenna; that's usually the problem for most cameras and smartphones. Putting the GPS unit into an accessory (standard or optional) gives a lot more freedom with respect to the antenna design and presumably improves performance. Looks like the first units are reaching buyers now. It's been a long, slow, drawn-out release, but I have confidence that Hasselblad has built a good camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 1, 2017 Share #1049 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Well, they've surely built a beautifully designed camera externally....it remains to be seen if that translates to ultimate functionality....now with external GPS, potentially awkward shifting of AF points (other than touchscreen), potential heat issues in small body, bugs that may have added to delays, etc. Kevin Raber's upcoming LuLa review should be enlightening, as he used the camera in Antarctica and has alluded to some frustrations. And he thinks the GFX will provide formidable competition and offer some additional benefits....I already have lots of preliminary pros/cons for each system and look forward to hands-on tests. Jeff Edited January 1, 2017 by Jeff S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 3, 2017 Share #1050 Posted January 3, 2017 The Hasselblad comes with a hot shoe cover...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfleet Posted January 4, 2017 Share #1051 Posted January 4, 2017 One of or maybe the first X1D shipped by B&H has arrived - http://www.getdpi.com/forum/medium-format-systems-and-digital-backs/59983-where-x1d-14.html#post714846 Congratulations to the early adopters! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted January 4, 2017 Share #1052 Posted January 4, 2017 Nice. I already committed to the SL but I'm still very curious to try out the X1D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1053 Posted January 5, 2017 In advance, or in lieu of, posting his review on the X1D, Kevin Raber of LuLa just posted the shocking news that Hasselblad is now majority owned by DJI, the Chinese drone manufacturer.... https://luminous-landscape.com/hasselblad-acquired-dji/ I mentioned earlier that I made a list of potential pros/cons for the X1D and Fuji GFX cameras, and one of my big questions regarding the X1D was whether the company itself could be trusted to follow though on promises, or even be around long term. Well, this article fanned the flames....regardless of whether or not the X1D delivers as promised. Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1054 Posted January 5, 2017 In advance, or in lieu of, posting his review on the X1D, Kevin Raber of LuLa just posted the shocking news that Hasselblad is now majority owned by DJI, the Chinese drone manufacturer.... https://luminous-landscape.com/hasselblad-acquired-dji/ I mentioned earlier that I made a list of potential pros/cons for the X1D and Fuji GFX cameras, and one of my big questions regarding the X1D was whether the company itself could be trusted to follow though on promises, or even be around long term. Well, this article fanned the flames....regardless of whether or not the X1D delivers as promised. Jeff What??? I'm really shocked. Thanks Jeff for posting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfleet Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1055 Posted January 5, 2017 This may be something that's been in the pipeline for quite sometime, as there were rumors as far back as 2014 that Ventizz was ready to dump Hasselblad. A drone maker may well be a better partner than the present venture capitalists who probably weren't seeing the hoped for return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1056 Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Could well be, but just one more change in a long line of continuing Hasselblad changes in ownership/leadership. [Not too dissimilar from Leica.] Sometimes these changes happen for the better, sometimes not. Let's hope this is a good change. But it doesn't present a model of stability and confidence. A number of folks on the LuLa forum are displeased with the negative slant of the article. As always, we'll see. Jeff Edited January 5, 2017 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1057 Posted January 5, 2017 Wow, DJI buying Hassy throws a lot of uncertainty into the mix. I don't know if I'd want to invest 5 figures into a fledgling system until Hassy's future direction is clearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1058 Posted January 5, 2017 I see no reason to dis DJII's purchase of Hasselblad until there's more evidence as to their intent in managing the company. I thought Raber's article put far too negative a slant on it, sensationalizing it with that nonsense of "not the Hasselblad we all knew" ... That's just ridiculous, it hasn't been "the Hasselblad that once was" for at least 15 years now, just like it's not "the Leica that once was" for many years either. I can't imagine any sensible business buying Hasselblad other than to at least try to make a go of their current excellent products in the marketplace. Why else would the Hasselblad name be of interest to them? Remember that Leica almost went under several times in the past fifty years. They didn't because the company pulled itself together and produced good products, with money funding them from various new owners. Let's hope rather than be negative about Hasselblad. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1059 Posted January 5, 2017 Hmm, I wonder now whether I should continue with my pre-order or cancel after reading that article. However as you say I currently own an SL, which comes from a company who like you say has had several owners over the last 5 decades. I have had two demos, and over those 2 hours I thought this camera is really extremely good. I looked at the images at my home Mac and said wow they are extremely good. If this means money comes in and Hasselblad production remains in Sweden apart fromt the lenses which are Japanese then I may well still go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted January 5, 2017 Share #1060 Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Welcome to globalisation! Hasselblad, "the iconic Swedish camera company", has not been owned by the Hasselblad family or Swedish investors for a long time. In the last 13 years, Hasselblad was owned by the Hong Kong-based Shriro group for 8 years. In 2011 Hasselblad was acquired by Ventizz Capital Fund IV, LP, a private equity investor. So I do not really see the point. Leica is basically one person plus a Hedge Fund - not the most future-proof solution I can think of either. And maybe in the future you get a free drone with a X1D, so you really do not need GPS in the body Edited January 5, 2017 by anickpick 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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