Ecar Posted January 30, 2020 Share #21 Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) It's also embedded in the latest LR releases (since mid-2019 IIRC), ie not a separate plug-in anymore. Edited January 30, 2020 by Ecar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Hi Ecar, Take a look here What do you think about the Voigtländer Color-Skopar 21mm f/4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
david strachan Posted January 31, 2020 Share #22 Posted January 31, 2020 Flat Field Correction has always been with my Lightroom. I'm now on edition 6.14, the standalone edition with no cloud or future support. It works very well and so simple to use with many of my Voigtlanders 15mm, 21mm, 28mm (all ltm lenses)...all need cornerfix usually. Sometimes i get no edge colours; it depends on the subject quite often. Please note I'm talking M-P (typ240) here; of course no edge effects at all, ever, on my M8's where these lenses shine. I find coding the lens as a wide angle Leica lens doesn't work at all. It's either fixed, or it's not fully fixed...there is no half way partial fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 31, 2020 Share #23 Posted January 31, 2020 Second paragraph, end of first sentence should be Flat Field Correction not Cornerfix. Thank you, correction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 31, 2020 Share #24 Posted January 31, 2020 That damned autocorrect 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poki Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted February 1, 2020 Just noticed this old thread got revived, so I thought I might share my journey with the little Voigtlander lens. I did use it for almost three years and had a lot of fun with it, but the color cast was just too strong on a lot of photos and depending on the subject I wasn't able to find a quick and easy way to reliably remove it. So about a year ago I replaced it with a Leica Super Elmar-M 3.4/21 ASPH., and I know I'm stating the obvious, but this lens is not only better in every measurable way, I absolutely admire the color rendering. I'll post just one photo to show what I mean (those greens!) and then I'll stop talking (slightly) off topic. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Isle of Skye, Scotland, August 2019 by Hannes Brecher, on Flickr Also got an old-ish 21mm Leica OVF, which distorts like a hundred times less than the cheap Voigtlander one, which makes working with the lens a lot easier. 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Isle of Skye, Scotland, August 2019 by Hannes Brecher, on Flickr Also got an old-ish 21mm Leica OVF, which distorts like a hundred times less than the cheap Voigtlander one, which makes working with the lens a lot easier. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=3904234'>More sharing options...
mrharpman Posted February 2, 2020 Share #26 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Thank you for all your answers and suggestions. I looked into flat field correction and I have to say that it is a pretty tedious process. They way lightroom approaches it seems pretty cumbersome to me, but I got it working with Capture one. I guess the main problem in fixing the cast is getting a really good reference file. But I have to say, that I don‘t think that I will be happy with that workaround. 48 minutes ago, Poki said: Just noticed this old thread got revived, so I thought I might share my journey with the little Voigtlander lens. I did use it for almost three years and had a lot of fun with it, but the color cast was just too strong on a lot of photos and depending on the subject I wasn't able to find a quick and easy way to reliably remove it. So about a year ago I replaced it with a Leica Super Elmar-M 3.4/21 ASPH., and I know I'm stating the obvious, but this lens is not only better in every measurable way, I absolutely admire the color rendering. I'll post just one photo to show what I mean (those greens!) and then I'll stop talking (slightly) off topic. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Isle of Skye, Scotland, August 2019 by Hannes Brecher, on Flickr Also got an old-ish 21mm Leica OVF, which distorts like a hundred times less than the cheap Voigtlander one, which makes working with the lens a lot easier. Thank you for this post. I was looking for alternatives on 21mm lenses for Leica and came across the Super-Elmar. Unfortunately the price is close to 7 times of the 4/21 Voigtlander. Edited February 2, 2020 by mrharpman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 2, 2020 Share #27 Posted February 2, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have both CV 21/4 and CV 21/3.5. The latter is sharper at f/4, has less flare and doesn't need flat field correction. It has more CA though and you may like or hate its focus "stick". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted February 2, 2020 Share #28 Posted February 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Poki said: Just noticed this old thread got revived, so I thought I might share my journey with the little Voigtlander lens. I did use it for almost three years and had a lot of fun with it, but the color cast was just too strong on a lot of photos and depending on the subject I wasn't able to find a quick and easy way to reliably remove it. So about a year ago I replaced it with a Leica Super Elmar-M 3.4/21 ASPH., and I know I'm stating the obvious, but this lens is not only better in every measurable way, I absolutely admire the color rendering. I'll post just one photo to show what I mean (those greens!) and then I'll stop talking (slightly) off topic. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Isle of Skye, Scotland, August 2019 by Hannes Brecher, on Flickr Also got an old-ish 21mm Leica OVF, which distorts like a hundred times less than the cheap Voigtlander one, which makes working with the lens a lot easier. Hi Poki You can have any colour you like...with modern computer processing. Not all of us like over verdant greens...but it's all a matter of taste. All best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poki Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted February 2, 2020 8 hours ago, david strachan said: Hi Poki You can have any colour you like...with modern computer processing. Not all of us like over verdant greens...but it's all a matter of taste. All best... Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn’t share images on the web. I‘ll be back in another three years then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 2, 2020 Share #30 Posted February 2, 2020 Nice image if you intended to show a broccoli field . Just kidding of course. I like much your composition and adjusting white balance or removing otherwise a bit of color cast should suffice to fix the problem if any. Now to each his tastes obviously . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 19, 2023 Share #31 Posted May 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Al Brown said: Some years have passed, has someone put this lens on M10-R or M11 and assessed the purple edges there? The Skopar 21/4 does not exhibit color shifts on the M11. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4775492'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2023 Share #32 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Am 2.2.2020 um 07:30 schrieb Poki: Thanks for reminding me why I shouldn’t share images on the web. I‘ll be back in another three years then. Time‘s up. Edited May 19, 2023 by Apochromat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted May 20, 2023 Share #33 Posted May 20, 2023 vor 12 Stunden schrieb Al Brown: Some years have passed, has someone put this lens on M10-R or M11 and assessed the purple edges there? On my M10R, the Color Skopar 21/4 produces slight magenta color cast at the extreme left and right edges. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4775734'>More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted May 20, 2023 Share #34 Posted May 20, 2023 Saturation set to maximum: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4775735'>More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted May 20, 2023 Share #35 Posted May 20, 2023 Nevertheless, it's a tiny travel lens that always fits in your pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2023 Share #36 Posted May 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: On my M10R, the Color Skopar 21/4 produces slight magenta color cast at the extreme left and right edges. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Try coding it differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 20, 2023 Share #37 Posted May 20, 2023 The M10-R has no BSI sensor i guess. Sony BSI sensors like that of the M11 are free from color shifts on critical lenses like Heliar 15/4.5 v2, Elmarit 28/2.1, Super-Angulon 21/3.4, Skopar 21/4, Biogon 21/4.5, Elmarit 28/2.8, etc. Same on my Sony A7r2 mod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo01 Posted May 20, 2023 Share #38 Posted May 20, 2023 I also liked the lens but i sold it because of the f4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259498-what-do-you-think-about-the-voigtl%C3%A4nder-color-skopar-21mm-f4/?do=findComment&comment=4775805'>More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted May 21, 2023 Share #39 Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) vor 23 Stunden schrieb jaapv: Try coding it differently. Any idea which lens would be most suited? Elmarit 21 ASPH seems to be the best choice? I'm wondering whether there is any information available which parameters are actually affected (one or more and which of vignetting, distortion, color cast,...) by the respective lens profiles on the respective camera type or whether this is Leica's secret. For instance the following website lists some profiles, but does not seem to shed light on the aforesaid question: https://lavidaleica.com/content/leica-lens-codes Edited May 21, 2023 by Robert Blanko Added Elmarit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 21, 2023 Share #40 Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Robert Blanko said: Any idea which lens would be most suited? Elmarit 21/2.8 pre-asph on M240. I use the same profile on my M11 because the lens is hand coded as such but how i feel it, the camera does not need any code to avoid color shifts thanks to the BSI sensor of the M11. 6-bit coding can be useful for adjusting vignetting though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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