Leicaflex Posted September 16, 2015 Share #921 Posted September 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica always had a good sens for the proportion between body and lens size. The S is a good example, it might be the smallest mediumformat camera but it's still big enough for the huge lenses. Even the T has a well balanced body in relation to the lenses. A body like the Sony NEX 5 is just too small for it's lenses. If the new System is full frame, has AF and maybe even zooms, the lenses will be much larger than the current T or M lenses. For a good proportion between lens and body size the body could be even a bit larger than the M bodys. I hope they find the right size for the new system but I don't expect it to be smaller than the M. For the M I'm shure Leica is trying to come back to the size of the original analog M, as soon as it's technically possible. And maybe they bring the CL to live again, that would be a smaller option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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colonel Posted September 16, 2015 Share #922 Posted September 16, 2015 I would frankly worry if Leica were to introduce yet another mount. Already 3 (M, S and T) for such a small company. Even Sony, Nikon and Canon only have two each, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsartori Posted September 16, 2015 Share #923 Posted September 16, 2015 If Leica comes out with a new mount, new AF lenses etc. I will not buy. I do have a great Nikon D800E for that. The moment they add that they must think at VR etc everything will be bigger and bigger. Why buy Nikon at 3X the price? I like my Leica because it has a rangefinder and so it has to stay otherwise it's just another mirrorless me-too product. Sony make wonderful products in that area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 16, 2015 Share #924 Posted September 16, 2015 If Leica comes out with a new mount, new AF lenses etc. I will not buy. I do have a great Nikon D800E for that. The moment they add that they must think at VR etc everything will be bigger and bigger. Why buy Nikon at 3X the price? I like my Leica because it has a rangefinder and so it has to stay otherwise it's just another mirrorless me-too product. Sony make wonderful products in that area. Hopefully, the fact it is AF will not mean it is a "me too" camera. I expect Leica to have a unique point of difference. Lens quality, size (the D800e is HUGE) and user interface (the Nikon interface is the best in sector, yet the camera is still impossibly complex compared to the S). Isn't the starting point something like a 35mm format S camera, with design cues from the Q? That will be very different from the D800, and will stop the trickle of M owners compromising with the Sony A7 cameras. The new camera will likely become a primary camera system alternative (complementary or back up) to the M. the M is a particular tool - compact manual camera with optical rangefinder, best from 18mm to 135mm. I just hope the new camera isn't huge ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Helm Posted September 16, 2015 Share #925 Posted September 16, 2015 Reading tea leaves: There are lots of speculations here on a presumptive new Leica product, with very few solid hints so far. What about this one: A few days ago, I received my copy of the newest issue of the German magazine 'Color Foto', which ran a comparison of 4 high-end full frame cameras: Canon 5DSR, Nikon D810, Sony A7RII and the current Leica Monochrome. The reviewer among other things praised the Leica for its very good picture quality, as you would expect from a German magazine, which usually keeps any criticism of Leica products to subtle phrases. Then I got coffee in the choke, by reading this: '...One has unfortunatelely to state this clearly: The focusing system of the M Monochrome is hopelessly outdated. - a reliable autofocus would certainly not curry needless favour with the zetgeist.' ... and later: 'Even ..purists would be happy if treated to a contemporary focusing technology.' ( my timid translation from one foreign language to another). The reviewer may have read this Forum to get the above idea into his head, but he may also have heard a bird singing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 16, 2015 Share #926 Posted September 16, 2015 MF is so much better then AF. And Leica RF MF is best I like to focus on a point and not worry about the camera loosing it as i change other settings. I like to focus on the surface of the eyeball. I like rock solid prefocus. I like the camera being at focus when I switched off, ready to go. Good luck doing that with an AF camera ... Its a skill, like understanding shutter and aperture. People who are beginners don't shoot Leica M .... generally .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 16, 2015 Share #927 Posted September 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) They speak of a camera that bears a red dot Should have rangefinder … but maybe will not Cry the naysayers : “good for an ass !” Answer the fans : “gotta that glass !” And surfers in Wetzlar are laughing a lot… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey You Posted September 16, 2015 Share #928 Posted September 16, 2015 My bet is that the camera won't be released before this thread reaches 1,000 posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted September 16, 2015 Share #929 Posted September 16, 2015 They speak of a camera that bears a red dot Should have rangefinder … but maybe will not Cry the naysayers : “good for an ass !” Answer the fans : “gotta that glass !” And surfers in Wetzlar are laughing a lot… And we are clueless to what they got. But I gotta have new M to show my class, Pre rubbed in right places to show some brass Alas, all this thread got is noiseless fart ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 17, 2015 Share #930 Posted September 17, 2015 They speak of a camera that bears a red dot Should have rangefinder … but maybe will not Cry the naysayers : “good for an ass !” Answer the fans : “gotta that glass !” And surfers in Wetzlar are laughing a lot… Inspired Luigi ! You should do a special edition of your case with that embossed on the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 17, 2015 Share #931 Posted September 17, 2015 Inspired Luigi ! You should do a special edition of your case with that embossed on the back "Limericks" are the reign of a certain kind of nonsense which, (time to time.. not always... ) seems to emerge in the threads related to announcements-to-come... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Frog Posted September 18, 2015 Share #932 Posted September 18, 2015 To Leica CEO. Nowadays, it's very fast in launching of Leica new model ( from X-type, T-type and lastest Q-type), it seems you try to take all alphabets, I think you should slow down your competition to Japan company marketing way and back to your strength in Leica M & S model quality for your customer satisfaction, I feel boring of marketing strategy by launching the new type of camera every year, many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeuBu Posted September 18, 2015 Share #933 Posted September 18, 2015 +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 19, 2015 Share #934 Posted September 19, 2015 Maybe they use the T mount with a larger sensor... How wide is that mount compared to the Sony's E-mount? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 19, 2015 Share #935 Posted September 19, 2015 And have a number of incompatible T lenses out there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 20, 2015 Share #936 Posted September 20, 2015 And have a number of incompatible T lenses out there? That would depend on how you define ‘incompatible’ … Are Nikon’s DX lenses incompatible with FX bodies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 20, 2015 Share #937 Posted September 20, 2015 Of course there will be new Leicas. Although the classic rangefinder Leica will always have its adherents who value its purity and simplicity, any forward-looking camera company cannot afford to stand still. I think there is room for both traditional and more innovative models of Leica. To be successful, new models should embody proven virtues of good design, engineering, and ergonomics. And they need to provide top performance. The big question to my mind is what sensor size a new Leica system camera will be. Even the phrase "full frame", based on 35mm film technology, is pretty meaningless these days considering how good APS-sized sensors can be. The main deciding factor for choosing one over the other is more to do with compatibility of existing lenses. It does seem puzzling to introduce a new line of ranges designed for just one body, the T. It would make sense to be able to use them with other Leica bodies, whether X, M, Q or something else. I think a new interchangeable AF series of cameras would attract more buyers than introducing ever more fixed-lens models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 20, 2015 Share #938 Posted September 20, 2015 That would depend on how you define ‘incompatible’ … Are Nikon’s DX lenses incompatible with FX bodies? As in having not enough coverage for the larger sensor. I guess one could design a mount that would prevent the mounting of the current T lenses on a hypothetical full frame T, whilst allowing new lenses to be used on the "small" T. otherwise I can already visualize the posts complaining about the vignetting of the 18-56 used as a wideangle zoom on full frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 20, 2015 Share #939 Posted September 20, 2015 Why preventing the mount of other Leica lenses? A full frame EVIL can perfectly work in APS mode with APS lenses. At least it should to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 20, 2015 Share #940 Posted September 20, 2015 Well, yes, but not every buyer will be knowledgeable enough to know this, and may innocently buy a vignetting lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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