Duane Pandorf Posted August 31, 2015 Share #621 Posted August 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Short answer: No. Slightly longer answer: The next M-E will be announced when the new M is. As the next M-E will probably be a variant of the M (Typ 240) with virtually all the features offered by the latter, introducing it any earlier wouldn’t make sense. I think I have to agree with your analysis. The new M that will be announced September will have an updated sensor and wouldn't be surprised that its the same one in the Q along with minor updates to video, IO speed and larger buffer. I like the idea of an updated M-E in December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted August 31, 2015 Share #622 Posted August 31, 2015 [...] The new M that will be announced September [...] I like the idea of an updated M-E in December. Little chance that the M-E will be announced after (or before) the M as suggested above so an announce in September remains uncertain for both cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted August 31, 2015 Share #623 Posted August 31, 2015 Except we're forgetting about the patent for some newfangled optical/VCF that started this thread. Something new IS coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 31, 2015 Share #624 Posted August 31, 2015 Something yes but M not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 31, 2015 Share #625 Posted August 31, 2015 There are strong indications that the new camera is an interchangeable lens mirrorless styled after the Leicaflex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 31, 2015 Share #626 Posted August 31, 2015 I just been in Barcelona, Bangkok, Cambodia, Bali over the last 4 weeks. Agree that lots of Canikon DSLRs in Barcelona (i.e. Europe), some Fuji, but the striking thing about the Chinese and Japanese who comprise the majority of the tourists in SE Asia is that probably 95% use phones. Otherwise, mostly cheaper Canikon DSLR with package midrange zoom lenses. The only other Leica seen was an M9/28mm Summilux on a classy looking gent in the Mercer Hotel in Barcelona (a classy joint). Had a long transit in Bangkok on the way back. The camera store in the airport had very few Canon/Nikon DSLR. Mainly compacts from a wide range of manufacturers, otherwise Sony A7 and Olympus OM-D were featured premium products. If you had the chance to mingle with local photo enthusiasts you would have seen the most Leica gear in any part of the world. Though most tend to shoot with mirrorless Fuji and Sony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 31, 2015 Share #627 Posted August 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are strong indications that the new camera is an interchangeable lens mirrorless styled after the Leicaflex. Not so strong about anything "styled after the Leicaflex" i suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 31, 2015 Share #628 Posted August 31, 2015 Not so strong about anything "styled after the Leicaflex" i suspect. Wait and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted August 31, 2015 Share #629 Posted August 31, 2015 I mentioned without video mainly because it seems me many "purist" do not like it. Yes, it makes sense to announce it when there will be the new M. Let see what happens...and when... robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 31, 2015 Share #630 Posted August 31, 2015 I mentioned without video mainly because it seems me many "purist" do not like it. Yes, it makes sense to announce it when there will be the new M. Let see what happens...and when... robert The only difference between the M240 and a M-E based on the M240 would be the "rec" button at the top plate of the camera. I don't use or like that button, but that is all. The M-E is now the M60. I would like to see that camera offered as a regular product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 31, 2015 Share #631 Posted August 31, 2015 Doubt the M would have the Q sensor. I expect a 36mp model at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 31, 2015 Share #632 Posted August 31, 2015 Well, not the Q sensor unaltered. That one is designed as a unit with the Q lens. I would not be disappointed, though, if Leica would not fall into the Megapixel trap. 24 is more than ample for all reasonable purposes. in fact. if I want to go for the best colour rendering and presence I will have to grab my 10 MP DMR... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted August 31, 2015 Share #633 Posted August 31, 2015 I agree 24mp is probably enough. Developed at full power into a jpg it produces a file in excess of 10mb, which is impressive and can be made into a very big print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 31, 2015 Share #634 Posted August 31, 2015 Interesting - so, no new M this year. I'm not at all disappointed. New M-E based on the M(240) - if we consider what happened with the M9, that would suggest a new direction with the new M when it is released. 2016 Photokina? New system in October? Available in stores for Christmas! EVF in SLR form factor (as is the A7, but hopefully better designed). Leica is good at this - I wonder what its unique selling point will be? The T suggests that it will need to be more than a pretty body and iPhone style touch screen. Modified Q sensor? AF, weather sealed? I do actually hope it is an adaptation of the T user interface ... I do hope, though, that it does not have fixed Auto review and EVF black out. That was hopeless on the T. I'm saving for a 28 Summilux, if it ever arrives ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted August 31, 2015 Share #635 Posted August 31, 2015 Interesting - so, no new M this year. I'm not at all disappointed. New M-E based on the M(240) - if we consider what happened with the M9, that would suggest a new direction with the new M when it is released. 2016 Photokina? New system in October? Available in stores for Christmas! EVF in SLR form factor (as is the A7, but hopefully better designed). Leica is good at this - I wonder what its unique selling point will be? The T suggests that it will need to be more than a pretty body and iPhone style touch screen. Modified Q sensor? AF, weather sealed? I do actually hope it is an adaptation of the T user interface ... I do hope, though, that it does not have fixed Auto review and EVF black out. That was hopeless on the T. I'm saving for a 28 Summilux, if it ever arrives ... Why do you say no M? It is 3 years, isn't it? And why SLR form factor for a new system? The Q shows the form factor can be quite compact. I hope they folllow the Q design rather than the T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 31, 2015 Share #636 Posted August 31, 2015 The M-E is now the M60. I would like to see that camera offered as a regular product. ?????? - How do you figure this? M-E = CCD sensor and natural frameline illumination M60 = CMOS sensor and LED frameline illumination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 31, 2015 Share #637 Posted August 31, 2015 Except we're forgetting about the patent for some newfangled optical/VCF that started this thread. Something new IS coming. There may be something new coming (isn’t there always?) but it may not incorporate the technology hinted at by that patent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 31, 2015 Share #638 Posted August 31, 2015 Why do you say no M? It is 3 years, isn't it? And why SLR form factor for a new system? The Q shows the form factor can be quite compact. I hope they folllow the Q design rather than the T. Picking through hints and comments made by people who almost certainly know what's coming ... I wasn't commending the T design (though I do actually like it); I was more referring to the user interface (touch screen and the way the menus are organised). There is almost zero chance (in my view) that Leica will ignore how people actually want to use this camera when considering how the camera will actually work. We won't end up with a Sony mess - I expect focus and F stop set by rings on the lens(?), shutter dial, EC dial (?) etc etc ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 1, 2015 Share #639 Posted September 1, 2015 Leica can choose CMOSIS (M240), Panasonic (Q), Trusense (M-E) or Sony (X-E) sensor at will. What is in the last camera has no bearing on what is in the next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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