jmahto Posted October 24, 2015 Share #1921 Posted October 24, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm not a Canon aficionado and don't know the nomenclature, but I thought the 1 series was its top-of-the-range pro camera, with 18mp. Am I wrong? Canon's site says this for it's $4599 body. EOS-1D X The Ultimate EOS.Canon has brought the best of the EOS-1D Series of digital cameras into one phenomenal model: the flagship of the EOS line, the EOS-1D X DSLR camera. Its full-frame 18.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor and Dual DIGIC 5+ Image Processors help deliver high quality image capture at up to 12 fps (14 fps in Super High Speed Mode) and a powerful ISO range of 100–51200 (up to 204800 in H2 mode) helps provide sharp, low-noise images even in dim low-light conditions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mornnb Posted October 24, 2015 Share #1922 Posted October 24, 2015 The 1DX is a sports and journalism camera. It is the camera that you will find clicking rapidly every time Obama or a Prime Minister gives a speech to the press, to capture every single expression. Most professional Canon shooters who don't require 12FPS for what they do carry around a more compact 5D Mark III, as the autofocus system and sensor is just as good. Peter H, on 25 Oct 2015 - 01:07, said:I wonder why both Canon and Nikon's absolute top of the range models have relatively low pixel counts (18 and 16mp respectively). It is mostly about speed, 50MP at 12FPS is a lot of data to process. You only buy a 1DX if you need speed, these are the camera that are shooting Formula 1 races, the olympics and rugby. Jeff S, on 25 Oct 2015 - 02:21, said:Canon's 5DS and 5DSR now have 50.6 MP. Jeff And have high iso performance little better than their crop bodies, which have pixels of similar size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 24, 2015 Share #1923 Posted October 24, 2015 And have high iso performance little better than their crop bodies, which have pixels of similar size. Tradeoffs....that's why they still produce the 5Diii, which offers higher ISO. The 5DS and 5DSR also aren't geared to folks who want the best video. http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-5ds-sr Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 24, 2015 Share #1924 Posted October 24, 2015 I'm not a Canon aficionado and don't know the nomenclature, but I thought the 1 series was its top-of-the-range pro camera, with 18mp. Am I wrong? Sure, but a lot depends on how one defines 'professional'. I'm sure some folks who earn money from photography would be more than happy with the 5DS or 5DSR, while others need the specific features/attributes of the pricier model. There are tradeoffs in speed, ISO, resolution and more. The 5Diii is another option for some, again with tradeoffs in resolution versus ISO, video, etc. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1925 Posted October 25, 2015 Here is an interesting clue to the next M. Patent WO2014198245 Leica filed in December 2014. The invention relates to a camera having an optoelectronic range finder, a focusable lens and a visually observable display unit for displaying data and/or images. According to the invention, two electronic image recording modules (5, 6) at a distance from one another and having their optical axes aligned to a common target point are integrated into the front surface of the housing (1) of the camera as range finders. A microprocessor unit (12) is present in the housing (1) and connected to the signal outputs of the image recording modules (5, 6) in order to determine the phase difference of the images of the object space recorded by the image recording modules (5, 6) and to compare the determined phase difference to the values stored in a calibration table for the distances associated with different phase differences. Camera with an opto-electronic distance meter, a focusable shooting lens and a visually observable display unit for displaying data and / or images, as rangefinder two spaced and aligned with their optical axes to a common destination electronic imaging modules ( 5, 6) in the front surface of the housing (1) are used to the camera and for determining the phase separation of the image recording modules (5, 6) recorded images of the object space and comparing the detected phase spacing with the values stored in a calibration table the different phase intervals associated distances a microprocessor unit (12) in the housing (1) is provided and connected to the signal outputs of the image pickup modules (5, 6). So, this would essentially be an optical viewfinder with a small EVF digital rangefinder in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1926 Posted October 25, 2015 Reading this forum, most M users: Love the rangefinder. Are comfortable using external viewfinders. Rarely use a flash. Are quite happy with a 24MP sensor. If this is the case, I think the next M should just introduce the following enhancements over the M240. An external EVF as good as that on the SL. An external EVF can be dispensed with by the M purists. Maestro 2. ISO up to 50,000. Silent shutter. I am not sure about others, but I don't desire much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mornnb Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1929 Posted October 25, 2015 If this is the case, I think the next M should just introduce the following enhancements over the M240. An external EVF as good as that on the SL. An external EVF can be dispensed with by the M purists. Maestro 2. ISO up to 50,000. Silent shutter. I am not sure about others, but I don't desire much more. Agreed. Although I would also rather like a Sony style r version, i.e. a 50MP version. That is to say, a sensor to make use of the 50 APO's resolving power. And I wouldn't mind Leica having a go at an electric rangefinder focus patch, if in means user-configurable focus calibration and a thinner body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1930 Posted October 25, 2015 Plus more pixels would be nice i would love 40mp + Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1931 Posted October 25, 2015 If the M stays around the same price as SL it will also have same 24mp. Q-like sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1932 Posted October 25, 2015 We seem to accept a lot of the status quo, asking for few and slight changes. Has it been proven that an array of square sensels is optimal? Might a hexagonal or an aperiodic tiling be better? A circular sensor certainly would be an improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1933 Posted October 25, 2015 Can't add anything else.. promised to be calm Just like to say what a load of rubbish the opening post was .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luele Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1934 Posted October 25, 2015 ... and what's with this http://leicarumors.com/2015/10/23/check-out-this-leica-m-typ-801-concept-camera.aspx/#more-38189 Leica Typ 801 Leica M-Mount Leica Open API system allows rapid user innovation. Water sealed milled aluminium or titanium body 30% decrease in weight over previous M systems 60MP CMOS sensor Maestro II processor 11 fps ISO range 25 - 50,000 Contrast focus assist system 4k (4096 x 2160) @ 24 fps video Built-in Wi-Fi, GPS and Device Sync Adaptive touchscreen Hybrid analogue / digital knobs Two SD memory cards slots Shutter speed: 1/8000 s to 60 s The Design is also not so good ... and another I don't want ... I hope that this is not the M-future - looks too technical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1935 Posted October 25, 2015 Now those are the specs the Leica SL should have had! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1936 Posted October 25, 2015 That specification looks much more like a modern photojournalists camera... with excellent connectivity to send back to the editorial office in a fast moving news world... a new M should be going in this direction. I don't like the originators design aesthetic though... but that just me, I would prefer a more rugged, utilitarian look. I'm sure we will see a few of these concepts from various sources over the next few months... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rawcs Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1937 Posted October 25, 2015 An external EVF as good as that on the SL. An external EVF can be dispensed with by the M purists. I tried an external viewfinder on the T and I will never use another one. adding and removing the thing was a pain, it wouldn't fit easily in a bag when attached to the camera and always looked vulnerable when sat atop the camera. I'd rather see a built-in EVF that can be ignored by traditional users, although once they try it they may actually prefer it if it is of high quality. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1938 Posted October 25, 2015 ... and what's with this http://leicarumors.com/2015/10/23/check-out-this-leica-m-typ-801-concept-camera.aspx/#more-38189 Leica Typ 801 Leica M-Mount Leica Open API system allows rapid user innovation. Water sealed milled aluminium or titanium body 30% decrease in weight over previous M systems 60MP CMOS sensor Maestro II processor 11 fps ISO range 25 - 50,000 Contrast focus assist system 4k (4096 x 2160) @ 24 fps video Built-in Wi-Fi, GPS and Device Sync Adaptive touchscreen Hybrid analogue / digital knobs Two SD memory cards slots Shutter speed: 1/8000 s to 60 s The Design is also not so good ... and another I don't want ... I hope that this is not the M-future - looks too technical Those are "desired" specs. Never knew that desire could be rumor too. The only thing I will welcome from the above list immediately is open API (but who doesn't want more). This is so easy to make available. I don't know why camera manufacturers don't provide that. After playing with Canon CHDK (and lots of fun) scripting I think it would be awesome if camera manufacturers open up the software part. Well, a computer engineer can only wish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1939 Posted October 25, 2015 Reading this forum, most M users: Love the rangefinder. Are comfortable using external viewfinders. Rarely use a flash. Are quite happy with a 24MP sensor. If this is the case, I think the next M should just introduce the following enhancements over the M240. An external EVF as good as that on the SL. An external EVF can be dispensed with by the M purists. Maestro 2. ISO up to 50,000. Silent shutter. I am not sure about others, but I don't desire much more. What, exactly, is an "M purist"? Thanks!, s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted October 25, 2015 Share #1940 Posted October 25, 2015 What, exactly, is an "M purist"? Thanks!, s-a Someone who buys a Leica M edition "Leica 60" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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