Mornnb Posted July 9, 2015 Share #41 Posted July 9, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are too much variables to satisfy and every variable is at the expense of the other: sharpness, contrast, falloff, size, focus color correction, blabla. Karbe doesn't like the 75 lux. Karbe killed the Noctilux f1's personnality with the new 0.95, not a particularly nice boke on the 50 apo, not a particularly nice boke on the 35lux fle. How can you explain that? Sure, in the interview he talks about his work in a way that every artist talks about his work during an exhibition. But I maintain what I said: He tries to do the best possible job on the foremost variables (SIZE, COLOR, SHARPNESS, CONTRAST) and many secondary variables simply fall where they fall (boke is absolutely a second variable). With Leica's great history, the hardest part of Peter Karbe's job is no doubt to improve on already excellent designs. It's quite clear what he's saying in the interview. That the Summicron got on focal point performance right way back in 1956 with the Summicron 50mm version 2. And that he doesn't know how to improve on it in a significant way in terms of sharpness and contrast. "In fact there is not a very big difference on axis between them.” The APO design primarily focused on handling of shadows, low light. And handling of out of focus elements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Herr Barnack Posted July 12, 2015 Share #42 Posted July 12, 2015 Please convince me that i don't need new 28 Summilux! Humans need the following things to survive: Oxygen Water Food Shelter Medical care Deprive a human of any of the above needs and sooner or later, they will die. No one has ever died from 28 Summilux deprivation - at least that I have ever heard of. Wanting a 28 Summilux is another matter altogether. If you can afford a 28 'lux without selling a kidney or performing odious and disgusting sex acts for money, by all means get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 12, 2015 Share #43 Posted July 12, 2015 It's not needing it to survive, it's needing it to satisfy a want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted July 12, 2015 Share #44 Posted July 12, 2015 You don't need it. Go survive in the woods for a week. Take only a good knife and a steel cup. When you get back to civilization, if the first thing you think about is the 28lux, then by all means, buy it. That pretty much describes "need." On the other hand, if you want it, buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted July 12, 2015 Share #45 Posted July 12, 2015 Oops, just saw that Carlos beat me to it. But seriously, you are asking us if you need a beautiful new Leica lens? You realize that this is the Leica forum. You might as well go to the Oktoberfest in Munich and ask if you should have a beer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 12, 2015 Share #46 Posted July 12, 2015 Must be to convince SWMBO i suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted July 12, 2015 Share #47 Posted July 12, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 28mm Summilux is ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted July 12, 2015 Share #48 Posted July 12, 2015 It's not needing it to survive, it's needing it to satisfy a want. Hence the last two sentences of my post... @Messr. Overgaard - Based on your above post, I take it that your less than staggered by the 28 'lux; just curious as to why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 12, 2015 Share #49 Posted July 12, 2015 I think that the 28mm Summilux is an excellent lens, as it should be for the price; it seems to be less stretched than its 21mm and 24mm peers, which show signs of taking things beyond the limit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted July 12, 2015 Share #50 Posted July 12, 2015 I have a 28 Elmarit Asph that I just love to bits because of how little it blocks the VF, so easy and fast to compose with due to that reason. And I just require one 1.4 lens for my shooting and that is most certainly the 35mm so I personally have no interest in this lens. I bet some folks are going to love it though, I just hope to see photographs that are created with it at a level of talent that makes me not care what it was taken with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted July 13, 2015 Share #51 Posted July 13, 2015 With regard to viewfinder blockage, taking off the lens hood will go a long way to resolving that issue. When I had my 28mm Summicron, I liked the big honking lens hood because it was big enough to actually be effective. When I shot with it attached, I would just move the camera around a bit to see what was in the blocked corner of the viewfinder, recompose and shoot. I don't recall missing or blowing many shots due to using this technique; perhaps once in a great while, but not often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted July 13, 2015 Share #52 Posted July 13, 2015 With regard to viewfinder blockage, taking off the lens hood will go a long way to resolving that issue. When I had my 28mm Summicron, I liked the big honking lens hood because it was big enough to actually be effective. When I shot with it attached, I would just move the camera around a bit to see what was in the blocked corner of the viewfinder, recompose and shoot. I don't recall missing or blowing many shots due to using this technique; perhaps once in a great while, but not often. Of course, I do it with my 35/1.4 fairly often and I did the move the camera around thing when I had a 28 Summicron as well. I was just floored at how easy the Elmarit is to use in that regard, the photos are much more on point in terms of getting the actual moment and having a high caliber composition as the result, remarkably so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted July 14, 2015 Share #53 Posted July 14, 2015 The 28mm Summilux is ... Thorsten, I note that you leave the vignetting in full force, which I agree is important. Have you shot it at f/2? It might seem painful, but the OOF is hardly disturbed and you get a big jump in 3D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #54 Posted September 2, 2015 So, thank you my friends for all your tries and effort to stop me, but you failed:) Samples to come soon:) it's great lens. Period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted September 2, 2015 Share #55 Posted September 2, 2015 So, thank you my friends for all your tries and effort to stop me, but you failed:) Samples to come soon:) it's great lens. Period. Congratulations! And I'm sure no one here is surprised... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted September 3, 2015 Share #56 Posted September 3, 2015 So, thank you my friends for all your tries and effort to stop me, but you failed:) Samples to come soon:) it's great lens. Period. This is an instance where in failing, we actually succeeded. We all had a video conference and orchestrated a campaign to get you to buy the 28 'Lux, utilizing reverse psychology as our weapon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted September 6, 2015 Share #57 Posted September 6, 2015 So, thank you my friends for all your tries and effort to stop me, but you failed:) Samples to come soon:) it's great lens. Period. Looking forward to seeing some samples! When do you think you might be able to post some? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #58 Posted September 21, 2015 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d9rijfgmg664pyr/AABqloZ66R8a1TyfpA6EehRQa?dl=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #59 Posted September 21, 2015 will post more bit later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiepphotog Posted September 21, 2015 Share #60 Posted September 21, 2015 Thank you for sharing Edward. Central sharpness is very good but edge sharpness is a bit smudgy. Good people lens but not for architecture, even though it was Karbe's intention for this lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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