thighslapper Posted June 24, 2015 Share #161 Posted June 24, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rather sadly I suspect the new firmware (if it exists) will just be a lens update and very little else.... Leica HAVE adrressed most of the concerns listed above ...... BUT.... It will be (as I predicted) by shoehorning a version of the new S Maestro II processor into the M240 successor ..... as they have done with the Q. I would be very surprised if Leica are wasting their time in making any major changes to the M240 (or 246 ..... as they have been developing this camera for some time) firmware. Sorry, Folks ...... ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Hi thighslapper, Take a look here M240 FW. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
IkarusJohn Posted June 24, 2015 Share #162 Posted June 24, 2015 Well, I hope you're wrong - I have been told by a senior person at Wetzlar that they are working on the lock-up issue. Whether or not they take the opportunity for upgrades (improved start up time), I really don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted June 24, 2015 Share #163 Posted June 24, 2015 Rather sadly I suspect the new firmware (if it exists) will just be a lens update and very little else.... Leica HAVE adrressed most of the concerns listed above ...... BUT.... It will be (as I predicted) by shoehorning a version of the new S Maestro II processor into the M240 successor ..... as they have done with the Q. I would be very surprised if Leica are wasting their time in making any major changes to the M240 (or 246 ..... as they have been developing this camera for some time) firmware. Sorry, Folks ...... ....... It would only be a waste of time if the issues are hardware related and as such cannot be fixed on the M24x platform. Leica runs the risk of being seen as incompetent when it comes to proper implementation of basic firmware. Not only with the current M but with the M9 as well. The very first digital Rebel of 2003? has a faster wake up time than the flagship M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted June 24, 2015 Share #164 Posted June 24, 2015 The M240 is a step backward, and the fact it takes the shot and then throws it away (without any alert) is misleading and totally unacceptable. As far as I can tell that is exactly what most (non-Leica) cameras do, unless you disable taking shots when no card is present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 24, 2015 Share #165 Posted June 24, 2015 It would only be a waste of time if the issues are hardware related and as such cannot be fixed on the M24x platform. Leica runs the risk of being seen as incompetent when it comes to proper implementation of basic firmware. Not only with the current M but with the M9 as well. The very first digital Rebel of 2003? has a faster wake up time than the flagship M. They are hardware related The processor is crap..... if it wasn't all of these issues would have been fixed long before now. The car needs a new engine ......not another tune up and tinkering with what's already under the bonnet .... They are not incompetent ...... just limited by the original specification .... which was probably decided upon 4-5 years ago .... Leica HAVE listened to what we have moaned about for the last few years and the Q is proof that these problems will be addressed ... but not in the M240 or M246 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 24, 2015 Share #166 Posted June 24, 2015 Yes we've been discussing about startup/wakeup time since March 2013 here. An average of about 2 seconds can be achieved with fast 8, 16 & 64GB cards provided the cards are new or formatted with SD Formatter. The only solution to get faster times is to disable the sleep mode, which works fine if one doesn't mind battery drain. Aside from that, Leica did not find any solution to improve the matter in two years so it would be extremely surprising if they find it now. They are working on the next M currently so they have much better things to do IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 24, 2015 Share #167 Posted June 24, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It will be (as I predicted) by shoehorning a version of the new S Maestro II processor into the M240 successor ..... as they have done with the Q. ....... Leica cannot go to the Maestro II for the 240 without new firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted June 25, 2015 Share #168 Posted June 25, 2015 Well, I hope you're wrong - I have been told by a senior person at Wetzlar that they are working on the lock-up issue. Whether or not they take the opportunity for upgrades (improved start up time), I really don't know. That is excellent news. They are hardware related The processor is crap..... if it wasn't all of these issues would have been fixed long before now. The car needs a new engine ......not another tune up and tinkering with what's already under the bonnet .... No excuse. The processor may be crap, but there is a lot more they could do in firmware to work around the issues with the performance of the processor, such as allowing a photo to be saved in the buffer while the processor is still checking the SD card. The cameras have 1GB to 2GB of ram on board, put that to greater use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted June 25, 2015 Share #169 Posted June 25, 2015 As far as I can tell that is exactly what most (non-Leica) cameras do, unless you disable taking shots when no card is present. You are correct, and I find this unacceptable. At least the alert should say "No Card -- Image will be discarded". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhauck Posted June 30, 2015 Share #170 Posted June 30, 2015 Short update: as i have a couple of problems with mit M: I have the written confirmation of Leica CS that a Firmware update addressing this is in preparation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted June 30, 2015 Share #171 Posted June 30, 2015 Could we change the title of this post to 240VW? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rim_light Posted July 8, 2015 Share #172 Posted July 8, 2015 Finally 2.0.2.5 is there Improvements: New Menu item “Flash exposure compensation” to adjust flash exposure with the Leica SF 26 flash unit (only active when SF 26 is attached). This new function requires Firmware 1.1 on the SF 26 Flash. Several firmware bugs that caused occasional camera hang up when using Live View or Video function have been fixed. Interestingly I never had hang ups while using live view, only when using high isos... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted July 8, 2015 Share #173 Posted July 8, 2015 I'll skip this upgrade, I guess nothing for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 8, 2015 Share #174 Posted July 8, 2015 Don't forget to save your profiles before updating folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted July 8, 2015 Share #175 Posted July 8, 2015 I'll skip this upgrade, I guess nothing for me. A ? - if you don't upload/install this FW update will it be detrimental to the next FW update? (when & if it arrives) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted July 8, 2015 Share #176 Posted July 8, 2015 Done & dusted..just got to reset my personal requirements.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 8, 2015 Share #177 Posted July 8, 2015 if you don't upload/install this FW update will it be detrimental to the next FW update? (when & if it arrives) No. Firmware upgrades are not incremental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millberg Posted July 8, 2015 Share #178 Posted July 8, 2015 Silly question.. but is the same FW for Leica M-P right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted July 8, 2015 Share #179 Posted July 8, 2015 Don't forget to save your profiles before updating folks. This is good advise. As I don't use profiles I neglected to do this, and it reset all my settings to defaults! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted July 8, 2015 Share #180 Posted July 8, 2015 Silly question.. but is the same FW for Leica M-P right? Yes, the M-P is basically the same camera, except for a few small changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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