dunhoy Posted May 14, 2015 Share #1  Posted May 14, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Homeless people are an easy and obvious image opportunity for the photographer. In London, or any big city, there are many on the streets who are homeless and there are also some who are no more than con artists trying to beg money to feed their lifestyle. At first glance it's not easy to tell the genuine from the con artist.  So, do you sneak a quick picture or do you engage in a conversation? I have done both but it is more rewarding to engage in a conversation, listen to their story, buy them a drink or a meal (it's a small price to pay) and then ask before taking their picture... the genuine are grateful and never say no.  This is Daniel who was wandering down Bethnal Green Road (London E2) when we met. Unwashed, scruffy and thin, he had a nervous disposition, a background of mental health problems and used to self harm (he had horrific scars on his forearm to prove it).  https://www.flickr.com/photos/dunhoy/sets/72157649920947638    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245019-homeless-sneak-a-picture-or-engage-in-conversation/?do=findComment&comment=2815948'>More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted May 14, 2015 Share #2 Â Posted May 14, 2015 Such a sad image. What hope has he? Â I'm generally against photos of homeless people - easy prey for budding HCB's who think they're being daring and 'edgy' by exploiting such people for their own satisfaction. Â There are exceptions of course and your photos are an example of how to treat the issue IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun Posted May 14, 2015 Share #3 Â Posted May 14, 2015 James, Â I would normally be in the 'no' camp. I've lost count of the flame wars on this forum and elsewhere provoked by pictures of the "Here's a picture of a homeless person I took with my a la care MP -- the Noctilux really shines, doesn't it" variety. But that is not you. I had a look at the project over on Flicker and it is humane and has a social conscience. I suspect that in the final analysis, however, one still has to ask of such pictures: what will they achieve? That's harder. But you have a project there that does have the potential to be used for a social purpose. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 14, 2015 Share #4  Posted May 14, 2015 I don't take pictures of the homeless and disadvantaged.  However......  It does not make one infinitesimal rat spit of a difference what the price of the camera is that was used to take the photograph. It is not the photographer's fault the person is homeless or disadvantaged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted May 15, 2015 Share #5 Â Posted May 15, 2015 Generally speaking, I am very much against "sneaking a picture" or otherwise taking a photograph of a disadvantaged person without their consent The photo you posted is wonderful and very deep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 15, 2015 Share #6 Â Posted May 15, 2015 It is not the photographer's fault the person is homeless or disadvantaged. Â Â You're missing the point I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 15, 2015 Share #7 Â Posted May 15, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It does not make one infinitesimal rat spit of a difference what the price of the camera is that was used to take the photograph. It is not the photographer's fault the person is homeless or disadvantaged. Â On a crude simplistic level, of course not, but there are significant structural issues at play and the question of the distribution of extra-personal resources (of which both housing and cameras are part) is very relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 15, 2015 Share #8 Â Posted May 15, 2015 On a crude simplistic level, of course not, but there are significant structural issues at play and the question of the distribution of extra-personal resources (of which both housing and cameras are part) is very relevant. Please explain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted May 17, 2015 Share #9 Â Posted May 17, 2015 It's a great image. I'm not going to get involved in the morality or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 18, 2015 Share #10  Posted May 18, 2015 That is a portrait of human suffering presented with care, and the quality of the portrait speaks volumes. It seems to me that you approached this person with sensitivity. I avoid the sneak shots. I had an opportunity for one yesterday, a homeless person sleeping in the street under an umbrella with a print of the American flag on it. It would have made a statement, but I could not bring myself to take the picture. I deal with homeless people on a regular basis. I recently had an awful experience dealing with the Department of Homeless Services of the City of New York, while helping one of my parishioners who is homeless (I'm the Vicar of Flushing). I was left aghast at the lack of humanity I experienced from a shelter director.  I think what's paramount in any kind of photos of the disenfranchised, is that you respect their dignity as a human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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