IWC Doppel Posted March 5, 2015 Share #1  Posted March 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am in a bit of a dilemma....  I have a nice (but expanding) lens collection. First things first, I am not a collector and they all get used. But less and less as I have only two arms and one camera. I have and do sell lenses if I no longer expect to use them. The question is how often will I use them. I have an M9-P that is a sturdy companion, just completed 20k exposures and running like a dream.  To put things simply I have wanted a monochrom since they were first announced and convert 90% of raw files to B&W and print mostly B&W (Although I am doing more colour this year than before)  My current lot :  12mm VC Aspherical II 15mm VC Aspherical II 18mm Leica Super Elmar-M 21mm Lecia Elmarit-M 21mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH. 24mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH 28mm Leica Summicron 35mm Summilux Aspherical 35mm Summicron MkIV 35mm Summaron f2.8 50mm Summilux pre asph E46 50mm Elmar-M 50mm Summicron MkV 50mm Noctilux f1.0 75mm Summilux  The 21 is an obvious decision to be made, so there's the first  So should I sell a lens or two .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Hi IWC Doppel, Take a look here I think I 'need' a Monochrome, should I sell a lens or two ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted March 5, 2015 Share #2 Â Posted March 5, 2015 I would decide on use. Personally I do not gel with the 28 and 75 mm focal lengths, but it may be different with you. Looking at your list, I would drop the Summicron 35/IV. With a Summaron and an 1.4 aspherical in the bag, it is neither fish nor fowl. The Summicron 50/V seems redundant next to the Elmar-M as well. And does the Voigtlander 15 get any use? - although it would not add too much to a Monochrom Kitty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 5, 2015 Share #3 Â Posted March 5, 2015 The 21 is an obvious decision to be made, so there's the first You are missing the wonderful Super-Angulon...... Â Whilst there are a few you could weed out, I suspect that they are the ones which would not raise enough to pay for a Monochrome. I'd say no personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted March 5, 2015 Share #4 Â Posted March 5, 2015 Would you consider waiting for the next iteration of monochrom? In the end since you're getting one I'd keep one of the 21/21/24 then sell one of the 35 asph/v4/ sumaron. Since you do use these lenses it will be hard to part but are they worth keeping for the sake of rendering and are the advantages of the monochrom worth more than those differences? Best of luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted March 5, 2015 Share #5 Â Posted March 5, 2015 The digital camera will become obsolete or have its components fail (e.g. sensor corrode) long before the lenses. Keep your lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsv Posted March 5, 2015 Share #6 Â Posted March 5, 2015 I'd sell the whole bunch, acquire an APO Summicron 50 w/ MM and you're all set! Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 5, 2015 Share #7 Â Posted March 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have you played around with any MM files yet? Â I wonder how much 'better' the images will look compared to your current workflow. Unless the MM offers a distinct advantage, for you and the way you want your images to look, then why bother? Â That said you do have a number of lenses which would appear to be disposable.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted March 5, 2015 Share #8 Â Posted March 5, 2015 The MM offers a visible advantage over the M9P in resolution, tonality, and noise.I'm actually considering the same thing right now. I might sell one of my film cameras and two lenses, but I will wait for a new MM to be released or at least until Photokina before I pick up the current one. I've waited this long, so I don't want to be at the cliff of the depreciation point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 5, 2015 Share #9 Â Posted March 5, 2015 Never sell a Leica lens my grand mother said . Seriously, if it were absolutely necessary, i would sell: - either 21/2.8 or 21/2.8 asph - either 35/2 v4 or 35/2.8 And if it were not enough, i would sell both 35/2 v4 and 35/2.8. If you need a slower 35 than your Summilux, you'd be better off with a Summarit 35/2.5 (or 2.4) IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted March 5, 2015 Share #10  Posted March 5, 2015 Monochrom,  Mt_Vernon_35ultron_Red_filter  M9.  Mt_Vernon_35Ultron_NoSharp_Simulated_RED  Monochrom, 100% crop.  chimney_monochrom  M9 100% crop.  chimney_m9_converted  If the difference bothers you, you need a Monochrom. I did.  For selling lenses... Asking the Wrong Group! Just buy the Monochrom, keep the M9, than you have a set of lenses for each...  (disclaimer, I did sell lenses for the M9 and M Monochrom- but mostly ones that I converted to Leica mount) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Russell Posted March 5, 2015 Share #11 Â Posted March 5, 2015 I would replace these: Â 35mm Summilux Aspherical 35mm Summicron MkIV 35mm Summaron f2.8 Â With: Â 35 Summicron ASPH. Â Â And sell these: Â 50mm Summilux pre asph E46 50mm Elmar-M 50mm Noctilux f1.0 12mm VC Aspherical II 15mm VC Aspherical II 18mm Leica Super Elmar-M 21mm Lecia Elmarit-M 21mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH. 24mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 5, 2015 Share #12  Posted March 5, 2015 I think you might sell the following lenses without regretting it too much later:  Voigtländer 15 mm Elmarit-M 21 mm Summicron-M 35 mm Summicron-M 50 mm That's four lenses to sell. Even after ditching these, there still will be more redundancy in your set-up than anyone would need. So rather than identifiying those which might go easily, you might approach the problem from the other direction: Which lenses absolutely must not go? I'd say in your collection, the ultimate keepers are:  Super-Elmar-M 18 mm Asph Elmarit-M 21 mm Asph Elmarit-M 24 mm Asph Summicron-M 28 mm Asph Summilux-M 35 mm Aspherical Noctilux-M 50 mm Elmar-M 50 mm Summilux-M 75 mm That's still more lenses than anyone needs, leaving seven to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted March 5, 2015 Share #13 Â Posted March 5, 2015 +1 for moving from wanting to closer to getting an MM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share #14 Â Posted March 5, 2015 I would replace these:Â 35mm Summilux Aspherical 35mm Summicron MkIV 35mm Summaron f2.8 Â With: Â 35 Summicron ASPH. Â Â And sell these: Â 50mm Summilux pre asph E46 50mm Elmar-M 50mm Noctilux f1.0 12mm VC Aspherical II 15mm VC Aspherical II 18mm Leica Super Elmar-M 21mm Lecia Elmarit-M 21mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH. 24mm Leica Elmarit-M ASPH Â Really ! I have had two ASPH 35's and sold both !! Â If I had to keep one lens only it's a decision Id make in 5 seconds and that's the 35 Aspherical. But the one lens only thought I have some sympathy for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted March 5, 2015 Share #15 Â Posted March 5, 2015 Don't sell your lens and buy M-A with a lot of TriX! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted March 5, 2015 Share #16 Â Posted March 5, 2015 If I were in your position, with your stated needs, the answer would be simple: Â YES. Â Sell a few lenses to buy the MM, or in preparation for the Mk II. It is not the same as shooting with a colour body and, while I respect the comment that bodies become obsolete and lenses do not, lenses that are barely used don't make photographs. Â I've written quite a bit about the MM on my site if you are interested. Still love mine and prob one of the best made and least regretted digital purchases for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijo Posted March 5, 2015 Share #17 Â Posted March 5, 2015 I recently had my M-E with the 18mm SEM stolen, luckily my insurance covered my losses. Instead of using the money to replace what was stolen I bought a MM instead, since I was converting most of my images to B&W anyway. I have absolutely no regrets about switching to the MM, the usable high ISO alone was worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 5, 2015 Share #18 Â Posted March 5, 2015 Don't sell your lens and buy M-A with a lot of TriX!Wrong! A Daguerreotype system is the answer!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsAC Posted March 5, 2015 Share #19  Posted March 5, 2015 My sets would be 18-28-50 or 15-21-35-75. For 35 I'd keep the Lux and the Summaron, for 50 the Noctilux and the Elmar.  Selling anything else and the M9 would probably get you an MM. Anyway, I favor the idea of billo101 with the M-A most  Lars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted March 5, 2015 Share #20  Posted March 5, 2015 I'd sell the whole bunch, acquire an APO Summicron 50 w/ MM and you're all set!  I'm starting to be very inclined to agree with that comment!  I recently road tested the MM + 50mm APO at Leica Mayfair.  The combination of MM and 50mm APO is quite remarkable. Resolution is highly impressive (the highest i've seen out of 35mm FF), but it does this in a gentle / smooth way and with an "unprocessed" and convincingly natural look. Micro-contrast and tonality are just beautiful.  It is reminiscent of ULTRA-fine grain 120 format film, drum scanned by someone who knows what they're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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