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I ran across this M-D or M-A commentary http://www.35mmc.com/03/12/2016/leica-to-m-d-or-not-to-m-d/

 

 

It's an interesting experiential essay. 

 

Personally, it would go the other way for me. It does all the time: I have an M4-2 in the same bag with my M-D a good bit of the time and I find I reach for the M-D most of the time. Why? Because I like shooting with it more. And why is that? Because I can pick my 'film' by twisting the ISO ring on the back from frame to frame if I so choose, because it fits my hands better, because I don't have to reload it every 24 or 36 frames, because it has a meter in it, because it winds itself after I make a shot, because I don't have to drag out the chemistry and spend a boring half hour processing the film and another even more boring hour scanning the frames, because I can shoot with it at ISO 400, 800, 3200 and 6400 with less noise and defects than Tri-X, because ... Oh, you get the drift.  

 

I tend to use it in much the same way I use my M4-2, but it's so freeing to be able to concentrate on taking photographs and not have to think about what film speed I'm locked to and what processing I need to do. Much as I applaud Leica for producing the M-A and hope lots of people buy and enjoy it, I know that for me the M-D does a better job. 

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 Oh, you get the drift.  

 

 

Yes, I am getting a drift of someone who has lost his appreciate of the fine art of film photography and has been sold (and I am even tempted to say blinded) on the conveniences and "good enough" qualities of digital...

Horses for courses...

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Yes, I am getting a drift of someone who has lost his appreciate of the fine art of film photography and has been sold (and I am even tempted to say blinded) on the conveniences and "good enough" qualities of digital...

Horses for courses...

 

Adam I fully agree with you , in the artistic sense of the term !

In any case, the M-A has a touch , a "paw" or a finger-print

that do not have the other cameras , digital included obviously.

... that's what  I said in "film thread" 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3179239

M-A wil be my purchase for 2017 instead of digit camera

Best

H.

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Yes, I am getting a drift of someone who has lost his appreciate of the fine art of film photography and has been sold (and I am even tempted to say blinded) on the conveniences and "good enough" qualities of digital...

Horses for courses...

 

Ummm....'lost'? :D

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The black MA is finished just like the MM and is meant to be the analog version -- on purpose (according to Leica Soho) -- whereas the MP has a black pain finish. The difference aside from the more lacquered look of the MP is that the MP will brass over time, for the MA to get there is will take rubbing through the chrome which is a bit tougher to do.

 

Personally, I could care less and simply wanted the camera in black vs chrome. Chrome has a nice retro look which I can appreciate and enjoy but I wanted an all black camera with no red dot, etc. Simple, sleek, classic -- to me.

I find myself starting to prefer black chrome over black paint. My MP is so shiny that it screams, "steal me". Of course I go to the grave with it and my M4-2.

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I really love my Leica M-A. :)

 

For me it's the most beautiful camera Leica ever made!

The quality is pretty much the best I've ever seen.

My personal highlight is the fine engraved lettering on the top plate.

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Yes, I am getting a drift of someone who has lost his appreciate of the fine art of film photography and has been sold (and I am even tempted to say blinded) on the conveniences and "good enough" qualities of digital...

Horses for courses...

 

 

Adam I fully agree with you , in the artistic sense of the term !

In any case, the M-A has a touch , a "paw" or a finger-print

that do not have the other cameras , digital included obviously.

... that's what  I said in "film thread" 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3179239

M-A wil be my purchase for 2017 instead of digit camera

Best

H.

 

 

Well, I don't agree at all. 

 

I'm interested in doing photography, making photographs, not "appreciating the fine art of film photography" or all that other hooey. Digital capture is not "good enough" ... it is excellent and outperforms film in many technical ways (resolution, sensitivity, color depth, gamma, whatever). What it looks like is a matter of how the photographer exposes and renders it ... just like with film. 

 

I do still shoot some film. Because I like using it sometimes, and I like my film cameras. I haven't been "sold" on anything. I have used film since the late 1960s and was doing digital image processing with the scientists at NASA/JPL starting in 1984. I have a very very long history of using both capture mediums, have a great deal of skill in capture, processing, and rendering with both, and know how to get exactly what I want out of either. No one "sold" me on anything ... I have helped other people decide when to use film and when to use digital capture: in science/research use, in forensics, in commercial work, in art endeavors. 

 

I take it as quite insulting that you would imply that I was "sold" on something like a mindless consumer. My work in photography for the past thirty-plus years helped develop both film and digital photography for many people, through my own photographs and through the courses I designed and taught. 

 

Sheesh.

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Rama , if problems* with digital do not bother you you are free to continue
-for immediate result yes
-for a photo with faithful colors no

Someone who shot 8 years of digital M (with 2 cam.)

Rg H

"You have said problems" ?  moiré, aliasing, banding, scratch sensor,dusts,

aproximate color, forced correction in photo software  etc....

and more recently http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268864-m10-banding-in-high-contrast-setting/

I want to sleep quiet and not have stress , really !

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Rama , if problems* with digital do not bother you you are free to continue

-for immediate result yes

-for a photo with faithful colors no

Someone who shot 8 years of digital M (with 2 cam.)

Rg H

You said problems ?  moiré,aliasing,banding,scratch sensor,dusts, aproximate color  etc....

and more recently http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268864-m10-banding-in-high-contrast-setting/

I want to sleep quiet and not have stress , really !

 

 

Doc He, 

 

I've been working with M digitals since 2012, with digital cameras since 2001, with digital image processing since 1985, and with film cameras since 1965. 

 

You have problems with accurate color? Calibrate your cameras. 

I've had zero problems with moiré, aliasing, banding, scratched sensors, dust, etc, in over 275,000 exposures. 

 

I've had far more problems with dirt impregnated into film by dirty processors, film cameras with broken transport, film cameras with broken shutters, broken meters, etc, than any problems with digital cameras. In the past decade, I've spent infinitely more money fixing film cameras than I've spent fixing anything digital. Even my most ancient digital camera (2003 Olympus E-1) continues to work flawlessly, every time. 

 

My M9 had the infamous sensor corrosion. That's a special case. None of my other Leica digital cameras have ever needed any work at all, they've operated flawlessly since the day I bought them. 

 

But even all those "problems" are no matter. I sleep very quietly and have zero stress when it comes to ANY cameras. They're just freekin' cameras, after all, nothing essential. 

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I really love my Leica M-A. :)

 

For me it's the most beautiful camera Leica ever made!

The quality is pretty much the best I've ever seen.My personal highlight is the fine engraved lettering on the top plate.

  

It's been a while since I posted in this thread.

 

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Is there anything sexier than a chrome lens on a chrome body with full top-plate engraving?

 

Clearly, not! ;)

 

Very nice, gents.

 

Cheers

 

J :)

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  Is there anything sexier than a chrome lens on a chrome body with full top-plate engraving?

 

 

I can be a sucker for black paint too (though not so much with lenses which I think look better in black or silver chrome).

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