lenicolas Posted June 5, 2014 Share #41 Posted June 5, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got a 6% discount on my M just because I asked (literally was my first time ever walking in that store). Then I exported it and got the VAT back (a further 20% drop). The perks of living in Norway Plus the selling of my M6ttl and the money I won't be spending on 135 film and processing makes the M an almost affordable camera Did I mention how happy I am with the IQ, handling and usability of the camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jip Posted June 6, 2014 Share #42 Posted June 6, 2014 Wel I just bought a M240 new for my boyfriend for €4450 ex 21%BTW/VAT that is about €5384,50 including vat. At Henny Hoogeveen in the Netherlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted June 7, 2014 Share #43 Posted June 7, 2014 Wel I just bought a M240 new for my boyfriend for €4450 ex 21%BTW/VAT that is about €5384,50 including vat. At Henny Hoogeveen in the Netherlands. My wife says she's lucky that I'm her husband, not her boyfriend Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 7, 2014 Share #44 Posted June 7, 2014 Actually, looking through the various reputable sites where Leicas are sold, I'd say there are certainly more used Monochroms for sale than used Ms. Perhaps that's because Monochroms still fetch higher prices, but nevertheless... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgoodsg Posted June 9, 2014 Share #45 Posted June 9, 2014 Commenting on the reason why the Leicas are unsold at the airport, I purchased a Leica T in Europe, flew home 48 hours later and it developed a fault immediately: Leica Singapore's interpretation of the "Worldwide Warranty" is that since I didn't buy it from them, they didn't need to do a one-for-one swap, and now my Leica T is off to Germany, not to be seen for 6-8 weeks. I've learned my lesson: don't buy Leica products overseas, for all their claims of high quality control at manufacture, they produce lemons and if you end up with one like me, your purchase will be gone for 2 months. I wonder if visitors to Singapore who purchase a Leica product from the outlet in the airport have any idea of how the 'worldwide warranty' works if they get home and their purchase has a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesqua Posted June 16, 2014 Share #46 Posted June 16, 2014 When buying an M 240 from any dealer, insist that he takes 50 shots in a row in front of you and if the camera fails he will exchange it for a new one. If he balks, go buy one somewhere else. Leica does have a worldwide warranty but it will be up to you to discover where in the world that warranty will be fulfilled. Here in the US there are many "reconditioned" M 240's for sale. They aren't all demos. Most have been sent back because they have a problem. The good news is they are excellent buys because the price is a bit lower and they have been through Solms or New Jersey at least twice. I bought one of these and it has had zero issues. Look at it this way, the dealer has pre-warrantied the camera for you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2014 Share #47 Posted June 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica does have a worldwide warranty but it will be up to you to discover where in the world that warranty will be fulfilled. Well.... Contact - Leica Camera AG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooj Posted June 17, 2014 Share #48 Posted June 17, 2014 When buying an M 240 from any dealer, insist that he takes 50 shots in a row in front of you and if the camera fails he will exchange it for a new one. If he balks, go buy one somewhere else. Leica does have a worldwide warranty but it will be up to you to discover where in the world that warranty will be fulfilled. Here in the US there are many "reconditioned" M 240's for sale. They aren't all demos. Most have been sent back because they have a problem. The good news is they are excellent buys because the price is a bit lower and they have been through Solms or New Jersey at least twice. I bought one of these and it has had zero issues. Look at it this way, the dealer has pre-warrantied the camera for you! Be careful with this. My M240 is a code 'U', and Leica NJ gives it exactly one year of warranty instead of the usual two. I'm sure if it came to a head and the camera died without warning within 2 years, Leica would accommodate, but it's not a given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted June 17, 2014 Share #49 Posted June 17, 2014 Be careful with this. My M240 is a code 'U', and Leica NJ gives it exactly one year of warranty instead of the usual two. Where can you see the U code? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2014 Share #50 Posted June 17, 2014 Be careful with this. My M240 is a code 'U', and Leica NJ gives it exactly one year of warranty instead of the usual two. I'm sure if it came to a head and the camera died without warning within 2 years, Leica would accommodate, but it's not a given. It is quite possible Leica Germany will honor a two-year guaranty nonetheless. Well worth finding out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooj Posted June 17, 2014 Share #51 Posted June 17, 2014 Where can you see the U code? It's stamped on the grey box that contains the demonstration box with the shelves. In no uncertain terms, re-certified by Leica Camera NJ. It was also communicated to me by my dealer at the time of purchase, though I was told it was a demo unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srv333 Posted June 17, 2014 Share #52 Posted June 17, 2014 It's stamped on the grey box that contains the demonstration box with the shelves. In no uncertain terms, re-certified by Leica Camera NJ. It was also communicated to me by my dealer at the time of purchase, though I was told it was a demo unit. My understanding on the stamping of "U" is that when it was going through final inspection, there was an "issue" somewhere. Which required the camera to be worked on. From this, Leica can not sell the product as "brand new" anymore. Then again... Maybe that was the "O" stamping... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted June 18, 2014 Share #53 Posted June 18, 2014 Commenting on the reason why the Leicas are unsold at the airport, I purchased a Leica T in Europe, flew home 48 hours later and it developed a fault immediately Interesting to hear that the Leica T can also develop a fault immediately the first time you use it. Just like my first M camera! So the T continues Lieca's fine traditions However obviously I am being cynical and a single case means nothing statistically. I am sure the T camera is more stable than any mass produced Japanese plastic camera... after all it is hand polished for an hour or so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 18, 2014 Share #54 Posted June 18, 2014 Commenting on the reason why the Leicas are unsold at the airport, I purchased a Leica T in Europe, flew home 48 hours later and it developed a fault immediately: Leica Singapore's interpretation of the "Worldwide Warranty" is that since I didn't buy it from them, they didn't need to do a one-for-one swap, and now my Leica T is off to Germany, not to be seen for 6-8 weeks. I've learned my lesson: don't buy Leica products overseas, for all their claims of high quality control at manufacture, they produce lemons and if you end up with one like me, your purchase will be gone for 2 months. I wonder if visitors to Singapore who purchase a Leica product from the outlet in the airport have any idea of how the 'worldwide warranty' works if they get home and their purchase has a problem? One for one swap of a brand new camera that is clearly in short supply from another dealer in a different country...maybe your expectations are a bit unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dringo Posted June 23, 2014 Share #55 Posted June 23, 2014 Hi, I just thought people would want to know of the latest scam that has appeared on EBay and of which I was very nearly a victim. Its not an item thats priced cheaply but a normal auction. I won the auction and then got the following email (and a full refund) from the genuine user who'd be suckered in by the conmen:- Good evening Alun, I do hope that all is well... I am going to be 100% honest with you in regards to this auction. I have reported this to Ebay no long ago... I am hard working honest young man from South London and my mother raised me to ALWAYS tell the truth! I was looking for a part-time job opportunity online that I could do around my full-time job and around my 16 month old son. My girlfriend wants to get engaged this year so I am trying to look to get something extra special for her engagement ring like a bridal set. 7 day ago i was looking all over online an came across an job advert online (Online Marketing job vacancy in London – Marketing jobs & vacancies on Field Recruitment). I was curious and said to my self I can do this so I was eager to start earning money online. This is the first email I was sent... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi there, I am looking for people to list my digital cameras on ebay. You will receive £100 + 5% from the selling price for each item listed. I will pay you when the auction ends. If you are wondering why I don't list the items myself it's just because sellers with no feedback don't have the same success as the ones with + feedback. If interested in the job send me your ebay username so I can check your feedback score. Thanks, Harry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now to me everything looks fine but today I was looking back reading through all the emails and was wondering why this guy called Harry that I am working for cannot contact me or email back today after I told him the funds won't be available to withdraw until the next 21 days! I refunded you straight away and called Ebay fraud investigation team and all has been reported. This is a very clever and deceiving way of stealing money from people but i've never done such a thing and If it was to happen to me I would want my money back to... Alun I am very very sorry to break this news to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 24, 2014 Share #56 Posted June 24, 2014 Unless eBay start spending more of their vast profits on tracking down and prosecuting fraudsters, they will find business dropping off. I have noticed over the last 18 months or so, how much less I use eBay and more Amazon. My experience with Amazon sorting out any issue has been good. They don't always get it right first time but they keep trying until they do. I had a Blu-Ray player which stopped working on the last day of its two year warranty. Sharp no longer made Blu-Ray players, so Amazon said I could have any player up to the original purchase price and as prices had dropped, I got a far better one. In contrast, I bought a new Apple 85w Magsafe2 charger on eBay a few months ago, which turned out to be a fake and the connector went on fire. eBay have shown not the slightest interest in resolving the situation. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted June 25, 2014 Share #57 Posted June 25, 2014 Regulating reseller prices is against the EU competition law. All Leica can do (at least officially, that is) is to give price recommendations. Still - 'regulating resellers prices' - are done all the time. On everything from Coca Cola to Mercedes cars. I buy my photo gear tax free in (usually) Singapore. I get some of the Singaporean 7% VAT (called GST) back when leaving at the airport. Still this is slightly more expensive than if I could have bought it tax free here in Norway (VAT 20%). Which means that most camera producers charge less for their products in countries with high VAT. I notice that particularly Chinese and Russian tourists shop expensive items like Rolex watches and Gucci bags here in Oslo - as well as in Helsinki and Stockholm - due to that these products are very favourably priced 'tax free' in these high VAT countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted June 25, 2014 Share #58 Posted June 25, 2014 Commenting on the reason why the Leicas are unsold at the airport, I purchased a Leica T in Europe, flew home 48 hours later and it developed a fault immediately: Leica Singapore's interpretation of the "Worldwide Warranty" is that since I didn't buy it from them, they didn't need to do a one-for-one swap, and now my Leica T is off to Germany, not to be seen for 6-8 weeks. I've learned my lesson: don't buy Leica products overseas, for all their claims of high quality control at manufacture, they produce lemons and if you end up with one like me, your purchase will be gone for 2 months. I wonder if visitors to Singapore who purchase a Leica product from the outlet in the airport have any idea of how the 'worldwide warranty' works if they get home and their purchase has a problem? I have bought most of my photo gear in Singapore. But not at the airport; at Cathay Photo. I got the 'Red Line' problem with my M8. The Norwegian Leica dealer duly sent it to Germany for fixing. It did not cost me a penny. I had a warranty issue also with my Canon 1Ds - also bought in Singapore - and serviced by Canon here in Norway. No big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magosak Posted June 26, 2014 Share #59 Posted June 26, 2014 My understanding was that they will only give a 15% discount on ex demo models? This is consistent with the price I was given for a demo version. Price of a new M also seems to have gone down to about $6k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didinjoo Posted June 26, 2014 Share #60 Posted June 26, 2014 Commenting on the reason why the Leicas are unsold at the airport, I purchased a Leica T in Europe, flew home 48 hours later and it developed a fault immediately: Leica Singapore's interpretation of the "Worldwide Warranty" is that since I didn't buy it from them, they didn't need to do a one-for-one swap, and now my Leica T is off to Germany, not to be seen for 6-8 weeks. I've learned my lesson: don't buy Leica products overseas, for all their claims of high quality control at manufacture, they produce lemons and if you end up with one like me, your purchase will be gone for 2 months. I wonder if visitors to Singapore who purchase a Leica product from the outlet in the airport have any idea of how the 'worldwide warranty' works if they get home and their purchase has a problem? I bought my M240 at Leica shop in Singapore (Mandarin shoping arcade) and have problem with my RF and I sent back to Leica. Leica sent me confirmation of repair and it will cost me EUR0.00. So the international warranty is valid. Only it takes 4 weeks to repair and service (including software update). leica has 2 shops in Singapore. Didinjoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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