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thighslapper

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I have tried and failed to find the dwbell post cited. Please could I trouble you for the link? Thank you and Happy New Year.

 

It's somewhere about page 190 onwards in the Sony A7 thread part of the Digital Forum (at the bottom of the main Leica Products home page). Can't be bothered to search this rather blinkered and self-deluded thread again to give you a more accurate idea....

 

Herr DWB either has shares in Sony or has had some sort of religious conversion with regard to this camera ..... it can do no wrong .... :rolleyes:

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thighslapper

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Client to engineer

"Have you done all the necessary tests to ensure a 46 tonne lorry is safe to cross the new road bridge?"

 

'Engineer' to client

"No, why would I, I'm only going to walk across it!"

 

I'm beginning to think you aren't perhaps an engineer, because they are rare nowadays, and are instead the modern shadow of an engineer, what is known to the poor sods who have to deal with them as a 'fitter'. You exchange components until the machine works, just as you exchange the parameters of a test until it suits your requirements.

 

You proved :rolleyes: your camera is completely free of the light leak problem by testing it to the (lower) limit of how you use it. And you think that is the answer, and go around telling everybody else to get their cameras fixed. That is some engineering mind you have, one perfectly attuned to building a house of cards.

 

Steve

 

errr...... yes ...... but the engineer would have designed the bridge to cope with loads of 250 tons to start with .......

 

....... and Leica originally engineered this with similar redundancy with regard to the films of the day and expected usage.

 

The problem is that they have not modified it to cope with modern high sensitivity digital sensors and the odd eccentric who wants to take 30 second pictures of waterfalls in tropical sunlight with a X10 ND filter .....:rolleyes:

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It's somewhere about page 190 onwards in the Sony A7 thread part of the Digital Forum (at the bottom of the main Leica Products home page). Can't be bothered to search this rather blinkered and self-deluded thread again to give you a more accurate idea....

 

Herr DWB either has shares in Sony or has had some sort of religious conversion with regard to this camera ..... it can do no wrong .... :rolleyes:

 

Thank you for this assistance. I am always interested in ideas or ways to get more spontaneous portraits.

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Independent of the actual issue, folk have to disassociate the cost from the product.

 

Leica is a particular product and it is not made primarily as a professional camera but as a high quality personal jewellery camera.

 

My Omega is far less accurate then my Citizen, which BTW with the new solar faces is far more technologically advanced. The fact that the Omega is 20x the cost is irrelevant. You know when you are buying Omega you are buying a mixture of machine and hand crafting with high quality materials and design. Thinking you were getting the most accurate timepiece due to some archaic Swiss chronometer standards and the amount you were paying is futile.

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Herr DWB either has shares in Sony or has had some sort of religious conversion with regard to this camera ..... it can do no wrong .... :rolleyes:

 

It's amusing to me that no-one accused me of having shares in Leica when I just as passionately defended, with you, the colour quality I the M240. Or it's superb resolving power. Or the DR increase vs the M9 ....

 

But that's where we are, I accept that. But I keep an open mind.

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Herr DWB either has shares in Sony or has had some sort of religious conversion with regard to this camera ..... it can do no wrong .... :rolleyes:

 

Music to my ears at least, I've got one on order, and looking forward to it very much.

Back to the stress thread now.....:D

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errr...... yes ...... but the engineer would have designed the bridge to cope with loads of 250 tons to start with .......

 

 

errr....yes, exactly, whats your point :confused:

 

My analogy was addressing the farcical situation of Surge the Engineer only doing tests that suited his photography and drawing spurious conclusions from that, nothing to do with the design of the lens mount.

 

Steve

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I don't do long exposures, and this issue isn't a big deal for me. I will also use a scrunchie if needed.

I put a 135mm APO, didn't remove the lens cap, and brought camera into sunlight. I was turning the camera slowly so each part of the mount would be led by the sun light.

The exposure was 45 seconds, and here is the result:

 

To rule out light leak through the lens hood/filter thread interface, it would be interesting to see the result with the same method but with the scrunchie. Then, surely the doubters will be foxed.

Pete

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thighslapper

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It's amusing to me that no-one accused me of having shares in Leica when I just as passionately defended, with you, the colour quality I the M240. Or it's superb resolving power. Or the DR increase vs the M9 ....

 

But that's where we are, I accept that. But I keep an open mind.

 

;):D

 

...... yes.... I'm just as guilty of the same 'offences' ..... :p

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errr....yes, exactly, whats your point :confused:

 

My analogy was addressing the farcical situation of Surge the Engineer only doing tests that suited his photography and drawing spurious conclusions from that, nothing to do with the design of the lens mount.

 

Steve

 

..... sorry ..... didn't realise we were in surreal 'Surgeland' ........ :rolleyes:

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To rule out light leak through the lens hood/filter thread interface, it would be interesting to see the result with the same method but with the scrunchie. Then, surely the doubters will be foxed.

Pete

 

I didn't have a chance to do it today. I'll go and buy a scrunchie tomorrow. Do I have to look for some specific one or any would do?

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There is only one solution to this M Digital crap.....Lol

 

 

 

BRING BACK THE "R" SYSTEM.

 

 

 

 

I had a massive light leak on my first R8 because Leica forgot to put the necessary piece of black plastic between the camera body and the lens mount.

 

Received a new camera without any discussion.

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I had a massive light leak on my first R8 because Leica forgot to put the necessary piece of black plastic between the camera body and the lens mount.

 

Received a new camera without any discussion.

 

Should have got an R6 or SL then, serve you right for buying an automated lump of ugliness in the first place...!!! :D:p

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