parasko Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1 Posted December 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, As I am relatively new to digital photography, can anyone recommend an LCD protector for the M240? I had a look in the FAQs and there was one recommendation which I cannot find in any store. Can I assume they are all pretty similar or can the adhesive on some of the cheaper ones actually damage the screen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarkP Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi all, As I am relatively new to digital photography, can anyone recommend an LCD protector for the M240? I had a look in the FAQs and there was one recommendation which I cannot find in any store. Can I assume they are all pretty similar or can the adhesive on some of the cheaper ones actually damage the screen? I have recently fitted a Giottos SP83022 Schott Glass screen protector after seeing it recommended by someone else here on the Forum and confirmed by Giottos themselves whom I emailed. It is indeed a perfect fit. I have used Giottos protectors on my M9 and Monochrom (yes, yes I know it has a crystal screen) and have never had a problem with replacing them and they have never damaged a screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 2, 2013 Share #3 Posted December 2, 2013 As the M240 has gorilla glass, unlike the plastic of the M9 and unmodified M8, I would not bother with a screen protector, as the screen will be far less prone to damage. Some people have had problems with all of the protectors from time to time. The Giotto one breaking and the shards damaging the underlying screen, the protector screens discolouring and then damaging the LCD when trying to remove them, etc. Even if you do have micro-scratching like I do on my M9, the screen is only there for chimping and accessing the menus and still works perfectly well with a few scratches. It is only aesthetics. My cameras are working tools and after a few years, will show distinct badges of hard work. As I very rarely sell any of my Leica bodies, this is of no consequence to me. The only damage I would get repaired would be dents or body distortion. The back door of my M4 has become slightly concave after years of being carried around in crowded bags and now rattles. It is going off to CRR later this month to have the rangefinder re-silvered and as it is there anyway, I will get the door reshaped and the light seals checked. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 2, 2013 Share #4 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi all, As I am relatively new to digital photography, can anyone recommend an LCD protector for the M240? I had a look in the FAQs and there was one recommendation which I cannot find in any store. Can I assume they are all pretty similar or can the adhesive on some of the cheaper ones actually damage the screen? Not the screen as such but some will damage the coating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 2, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 2, 2013 I'd kill for a screen protector with an etched grid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 2, 2013 Share #6 Posted December 2, 2013 I'd kill for a screen protector with an etched grid. What’s wrong with a ruler and diamond scriber? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 2, 2013 Share #7 Posted December 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) What’s wrong with a ruler and diamond scriber? Nothing, and I've considered doing as much. But like the OP my worry with all these hard protectors is the damage they can do on removal. I've tried using a sandwich of two soft screen protectors with a ruled grid within the sandwich but there were all sorts of problems. I don't actually need a protector on the M. What I want, what I want, what I really really want, is a firmware update that includes the option of a grid screen and while we're at it a level that can overlay liveview. Too much to ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted December 2, 2013 Share #8 Posted December 2, 2013 Just go freestyle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 2, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 2, 2013 I don't actually need a protector on the M. What I want, what I want, what I really really want, is a firmware update that includes the option of a grid screen and while we're at it a level that can overlay liveview. Too much to ask? Keith, There is of course levels (Horizon) available on the M240 LCD but the implementation could not be stupider if you tried really hard to make it as bad as you can imagine. The levels should have been selectable on the info button, like they are in every other decent digital camera, where the levels are an overlay on the live view image. Having horizon, showing transverse and axial levels, which does not show the LV image is just plain crass and totally useless. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 2, 2013 Share #10 Posted December 2, 2013 Keith, There is of course levels (Horizon) available on the M240 LCD but the implementation could not be stupider if you tried really hard to make it as bad as you can imagine. The levels should have been selectable on the info button, like they are in every other decent digital camera, where the levels are an overlay on the live view image. Having horizon, showing transverse and axial levels, which does not show the LV image is just plain crass and totally useless. Wilson Wilson, yup, the implementation drives me mad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 2, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 2, 2013 Gorilla being less scratch resistant than sapphire, according to jdlaing, i'm using mere Membrane's ScreenGuard screen protectors on the M240 just in case. Almost invisible. Easy to apply w/o bubbles, easy to remove. Not yet replaced the first one i've put six months ago. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2275519-post12.html 6 x Anti Scratch Screen Protectors for Leica M Type 240 Display Savers | eBay Membrane Screen Protectors Screen Protector Fitting without Bubbles and Dust - YouTube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted December 2, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 2, 2013 Keith, There is of course levels (Horizon) available on the M240 LCD but the implementation could not be stupider if you tried really hard to make it as bad as you can imagine. The levels should have been selectable on the info button, like they are in every other decent digital camera, where the levels are an overlay on the live view image. Having horizon, showing transverse and axial levels, which does not show the LV image is just plain crass and totally useless. Wilson I absolutely agree. I really like the electronic spirit level on my Ricoh which is visible when composing the shot. Even using the Horizon function whilst my M240 is on a tripod is not straight forward as you can easily lose your intended composition as you try to achieve a perfect horizontal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted December 2, 2013 Share #13 Posted December 2, 2013 I have recently fitted a Giottos SP83022 Schott Glass screen protector after seeing it recommended by someone else here on the Forum and confirmed by Giottos themselves whom I emailed. It is indeed a perfect fit. I have used Giottos protectors on my M9 and Monochrom (yes, yes I know it has a crystal screen) and have never had a problem with replacing them and they have never damaged a screen. I am a fan of Giottos too but my dealer got a SP83022 and I was not thrilled with the fit (we used the template that comes with the Giottos). It was long on one dimension and short on another (but I don't remember which as I did not buy it). This was consistent with the Giottos sales rep statement that the 83022 was not intended for the M(240). So I am still waiting for Giottos to come up with the right fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 2, 2013 Share #14 Posted December 2, 2013 Just go freestyle... ...or commando. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted December 2, 2013 Share #15 Posted December 2, 2013 Having scratched the screen of my M9 soon after I bought it I prefer to use a protetector even though the gorilla glass of the M240 should be more resistant. I favour the ACCMAX which is made of tough polycarbonate so is less likely to shatter than glass. It is attached by a self adhesive thin frame. If removal is required gentle warming with a hair dryer and sliding dental floss under the frame is effective and leaves no trace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 2, 2013 Share #16 Posted December 2, 2013 Brave man Archie! People have had the whole cover glass (plastic) drop off doing that. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted December 2, 2013 Share #17 Posted December 2, 2013 I am a fan of Giottos too but my dealer got a SP83022 and I was not thrilled with the fit (we used the template that comes with the Giottos). It was long on one dimension and short on another (but I don't remember which as I did not buy it). This was consistent with the Giottos sales rep statement that the 83022 was not intended for the M(240). So I am still waiting for Giottos to come up with the right fit. Correct, it was not designed for the M240 but it really is an excellent fit and does not compromise viewing of the entire screen. I think it's the best available. Before this I'd used an iPhone type screen protector but I didn't like it. Gorilla Glass is not as resistant as sapphire, and the Giottos screens also seem to improve the camera's LCD screen contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Andersen Posted December 3, 2013 Share #18 Posted December 3, 2013 Hi. I am very satisfied with those supplied from: Blickschutz Filter & Folien für Leica M (Typ 240) | schutzfolien24.de Very easy to apply, no glue, and the same bright screen as without the protector. I have it on all my equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns_ng Posted December 3, 2013 Share #19 Posted December 3, 2013 Having scratched the screen of my M9 soon after I bought it I prefer to use a protetector even though the gorilla glass of the M240 should be more resistant. I favour the ACCMAX which is made of tough polycarbonate so is less likely to shatter than glass. It is attached by a self adhesive thin frame. If removal is required gentle warming with a hair dryer and sliding dental floss under the frame is effective and leaves no trace. I am using the ACCMAX as well. But I have not needed a hair dryer to warm the adhesive to remove protector. I used a very thin piece of plastic to slide under one corner and just slowly lift it up. There is no trace of adhesive. N S Ng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted December 3, 2013 Share #20 Posted December 3, 2013 I had a Giottos on my M9 but so far have gone bare on my M. I might look at the ACCMAX. I have an MM but trust the screen on it and have not considered a cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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