rosuna Posted March 11, 2014 Share #601 Posted March 11, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica are clearly going for that type of customer. They don't want the same as everyone else, they want something more 'designer' and exclusive. I don't think technical specification really comes into it, as they're trusting the badge and price tag to mean that it's 'better'. The lens/es may well be, but the basic camera won't be any better than most of the competition (if it's an X Vario clone). Leica doesn't need to invent the wheel. The X Vario is a top class performer. It is very good, and beautiful, but pricey. Leica can offer many interesting things in the mirrorless APS-C segment: some style will be welcome, good materials and top class optics. Many people interested in a Leica camera -people not interested in any Panasonic offering- will come to a Leica Store and buy one of these new cameras (now, you only have the S system, the M and Panaleicas... and most people, due to different reasons, are not interested in medium format, rangefinders or pocket cameras). They will be second to none in terms of image quality and different as photographic tools. I would like to have one... or even a X Vario... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted March 11, 2014 Share #602 Posted March 11, 2014 Excuse me for not reading all the thread, but it's going to be an 'X' type camera with interchangeable lenses and an EVF isn't it? Define ‘X type’ … For me, Leica X implies a fixed lens. Everbody’s talking about ‘T’, whatever that is supposed to mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted March 11, 2014 Share #603 Posted March 11, 2014 (T)iny sensor camera to crop nice M lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 11, 2014 Share #604 Posted March 11, 2014 Define ‘X type’ … APS sized sensor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 11, 2014 Share #605 Posted March 11, 2014 Built from Ford Mondeo parts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted March 11, 2014 Share #606 Posted March 11, 2014 APS sized sensor I guess that sensor size won’t always be exclusive to the X line of cameras … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 11, 2014 Share #607 Posted March 11, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Define ‘X type’ … For me, Leica X implies a fixed lens. Everbody’s talking about ‘T’, whatever that is supposed to mean. I know nothing more than (almost) everyone else here but I would be amazed if the next new Leica camera wasn't something like this; APSC sensor Interchangeable AF lenses Accessory EVF Looks a lot like an X Vario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 11, 2014 Share #608 Posted March 11, 2014 Yes, and that 'll do just fine for me as a small addition to my S2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 11, 2014 Share #609 Posted March 11, 2014 Would be my ideal second string Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted March 11, 2014 Share #610 Posted March 11, 2014 High quality, portable, small... perfect for travels... It sounds good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted March 11, 2014 Share #611 Posted March 11, 2014 Alan G - Maybe one of the things Leica has in store for us, while using other manufacturer's parts, is enough different to warrant our attention even beyond the red dot. Remember the D2? It's still highly regarded while virtually all of its contemoraries have dropped in resale value to paper weight status. Let's hope. And these differences would be.....? Wasn't the D2 just a re-badged Panasonic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 11, 2014 Share #612 Posted March 11, 2014 ... Looks a lot like an X Vario The X Vario was dismissed by many - me included - for its lens: fixed and very slow. Now we are told by some who seem to know that Leica follows its own way in the overcrowded APS-C, EVF-market. If we try to think where to find a "Leica-way", my proposal was not to look at the body but at the glass. If we imagine a body similar to the X-Vario, but with interchangeable and not so slow glass, the surprise on end of April could be that Leica just does what we expect from them. By the way: there are some l'Arlesiennes of the Forum. The 28mm Summilux would have an angle of view of a 42mm on APS-C, the 14mm Super-Elmar (?) would be the equivalent of 26mm - fully improbable or unpractical? There might be an adapter for the M, which does know those lenses already in its firmware. On APS-H (aka M8) 28mm give you an angle of 37mm, 14mm someting more than 18mm. Though we are told that nobody on the sensor market produces any APS-H-Sensors any more. Yes - you need your own way to get such a sensor, perhaps the way leeds to Grenoble. Though perhaps the APS-H-size is too large to avoid the Italian-flag problem, which I understand is the main reason to use a larger bayonet and get out of the M-trap. I know that the M8 showed the italian flag - even when this almost went unnoticed. Though we are also told that new lenses with a much larger diameter of the rear element could cope for this. Unfortunately you would not be able to use those lenses on the M, so my "firmware speculation" seems to be wrong. "S" stands for something larger than "full format". "T" might stand for something larger than... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 11, 2014 Share #613 Posted March 11, 2014 APS-H instead of APS-C would be a fine small differentiator... and a AF Zoom 21-60 (or 65) a (formal only) way to stay away of the crowd of perennials 18-55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 12, 2014 Share #614 Posted March 12, 2014 High quality, portable, small... perfect for travels... It sounds good... Ah, that sounds like the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 12, 2014 Share #615 Posted March 12, 2014 And these differences would be.....? Wasn't the D2 just a re-badged Panasonic?Not quite - it was a Panasonic where Leica gave input in the design stage. And got lucky in the lens design - if it was luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted March 12, 2014 Share #616 Posted March 12, 2014 APS-H instead of APS-C would be a fine small differentiator... I doubt we will ever see an APS-H camera again, from any vendor. APS-H is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 12, 2014 Share #617 Posted March 12, 2014 Ah, that sounds like the M. Or like the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek Posted March 12, 2014 Share #618 Posted March 12, 2014 I doubt we will ever see an APS-H camera again, from any vendor. APS-H is dead. Well ok: APS-C. By I'm wondering more about the producer of the Leica T sensor. CMOSIS? 12MP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 12, 2014 Share #619 Posted March 12, 2014 Twelve...? That would certainly be a "differentiator"... Sent from another Galaxy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 12, 2014 Share #620 Posted March 12, 2014 I doubt we will ever see an APS-H camera again, from any vendor. APS-H is dead. Serious question: why? It is just a matter of cutting chip wafers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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