alphalam Posted October 16, 2013 Share #561 Posted October 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here you can find a lot of shots with Leica glasses mounted on the A7R. It's in chinese though. SONY The author reported saying Zeiss 21mm/2.8 has slight color shift in the corners. Sony A7R side by side to a Leica M6: http://s6.sinaimg.cn/mw690/643b266cgx6DlN0bncFb5&690 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Hi alphalam, Take a look here The Sony A7 thread [Merged]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marcg Posted October 16, 2013 Share #562 Posted October 16, 2013 Full Frame X200 coming 2014? | Fuji Rumors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #563 Posted October 16, 2013 The shutter sound of the A7/A7R seems extremely loud from the videos and from the comments made by the reviewers But it's nice that the shutter can handle 1/8000 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 16, 2013 Share #564 Posted October 16, 2013 You surprise me It seems to me that the A7 A7R is really a competitor for the M240. The A7R isn't a rangefinder. The M9 would go because I almost never use it now I have the Monochrom and M240. It hasn't gone yet as my son is doing photography for his art project in final year high-school and my wife thought I should hang onto it for him as he does use it, but I may just consider trading it in for a A7R if it proves to work well with my lenses. I still prefer rangefinder photography so the M and Monochrom (also for obvious reasons) stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozkar Posted October 16, 2013 Share #565 Posted October 16, 2013 You surprise me It seems to me that the A7 A7R is really a competitor for the M240. The key benefit of the M240 over the A7R is the RF, which is only useable for lenses from 28 to 50mm in focal length. The benefits of the A7R over the M240 are: Significantly (potentially) higher IQ in terms of resolution, DR and high ISO NO DUST (yipee) Maximum shutter 1/8000s (perfect for those that like shooting wide open) Super high quality EVF Great video with high level of usability and high frame rates Almost half the weight (if including mandatory grip and EVF on M240) Higher build quality/reliability (particularly with respect to electronics) The ability to use zooms and to shoot with AF lenses $5000 extra for an M240 is an awful lot of money to pay when you weigh up the pros and cons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #566 Posted October 16, 2013 The key benefit of the M240 over the A7R is the RF, which is only useable for lenses from 28 to 50mm in focal length. The benefits of the A7R over the M240 are: Significantly (potentially) higher IQ in terms of resolution, DR and high ISO NO DUST (yipee) Maximum shutter 1/8000s (perfect for those that like shooting wide open) Super high quality EVF Great video with high level of usability and high frame rates Almost half the weight (if including mandatory grip and EVF on M240) Higher build quality/reliability (particularly with respect to electronics) The ability to use zooms and to shoot with AF lenses $5000 extra for an M240 is an awful lot of money to pay when you weigh up the pros and cons. The A7/A7R seems to be perfect for street photography and shooting that requires the photographer to be discrete as well. Considering the fact that people will hear the A7/A7R's shutter from across the street. You'll get everyones attention. Great! NO DUST? ... electronic dust removal systems aren't exactly THAT effective. You'll get a lot of dust that requires manual cleaning with the A7/A7R as well. I find it funny that you list all those pro's without even having held a A7/A7R in your hands. Have you even held a M240 in your hands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou Posted October 16, 2013 Share #567 Posted October 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ordered one for delivery (in Paris) mid november. Plus for me ? Small, able to take my collection of R lenses and M too, pictures quality at, or close, or even better than the D800e, good evf and much, much cheaper than M240. Hope they wake up in Solms and we will see nice improvements in the Leica line also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2013 Share #568 Posted October 16, 2013 Good news: M240 Monochrome with a 0.85 viewfinder will be available earlier than expected before. Ordered a Sony today. Bad news: Noctilux 1.0 will become even more expensive and I don't have one yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey999999 Posted October 16, 2013 Share #569 Posted October 16, 2013 Speaking of the Noctilux price rise, in Australia all Leica lenses went up by about $1000 a month or so ago! I wonder how long people are prepared to pay very high prices for Leica gear, especially now their M camera has been delivered such a body-blow by Sony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoauge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #570 Posted October 16, 2013 Also von der Größe der Kamera und der Objektive finde ich die M besser. Vom Preis und wenn ich keine M-Objektive adaptieren möchte ist die Sony interessanter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted October 16, 2013 Share #571 Posted October 16, 2013 A7r listed for pre-order in UK for £1699.00 which is about halfway between second hand price of M8 and M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted October 16, 2013 Share #572 Posted October 16, 2013 The adapter to use non E mount lenses is £129.00 so the rumour of a free adapter was not correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #573 Posted October 16, 2013 The adapter to use non E mount lenses is £129.00 so the rumour of a free adapter was not correct. Throw in an external battery charger (not included in the kit) plus 2-3 extra batteries as spares (the camera uses a lot of power and the batteries are small) plus the lens adapter and you have a realistic numbers of what the camera will cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueweed Posted October 16, 2013 Share #574 Posted October 16, 2013 a7 + 50mm lux + focus peaking. can...not...wait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted October 16, 2013 Share #575 Posted October 16, 2013 Throw in an external battery charger (not included in the kit) plus 2-3 extra batteries as spares (the camera uses a lot of power and the batteries are small) plus the lens adapter and you have a realistic numbers of what the camera will cost. That may be true, but with a projected camera availability this side of Christmas 2013, it would be hard to see why, if you are still waiting for an M240 having ordered one a year ago, why the A7/A7r might tempt you away. Whilst i enjoy using the rangefinder, for me, it is not why i went Leica. For me, it was the leica glass, so a switch to Sony is entirely plausible based on being able to use existing leica and other glass, cost, availability and image quality. I think i could live with a spare battery or two in my pocket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #576 Posted October 16, 2013 That may be true, but with a projected camera availability this side of Christmas 2013, it would be hard to see why, if you are still waiting for an M240 having ordered one a year ago, why the A7/A7r might tempt you away. Whilst i enjoy using the rangefinder, for me, it is not why i went Leica. For me, it was the leica glass, so a switch to Sony is entirely plausible based on being able to use existing leica and other glass, cost, availability and image quality. I think i could live with a spare battery or two in my pocket Yup, I definitely understand that. I might be interested in one as well, but I've learned from previous bad judgements that jumping the gun too quickly is rarely a wise decision. I'm gonna wait until proper reviews (with Leica glass and adapters) is out before I consider this camera. I also want to see how the color reproduction and so on compares to the M240. If everything is good then the only really bad drawback for me personally is the extremely loud and clunky shutter sound. But I could live with that if I used the Sony as a backup/alternative camera for certain scenarios. I could never use it as a main camera for mye type of use with that loud shutter sound though. So that was really disappointing for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou Posted October 16, 2013 Share #577 Posted October 16, 2013 When i ordered mine this morning the seller looked at the package and told me there is a charger included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted October 16, 2013 Share #578 Posted October 16, 2013 When i ordered mine this morning the seller looked at the package and told me there is a charger included. A USB charger, yes. You have to plug the camera in to a USB port to charge it, with the battery in the camera. There is no external charger included. You can't use the camera while it's being charged (unless you have a very long USB cord!). It's the same type of USB/in-camera charger that is used on the RX-1. An external charger (like we are all used to) is not included, although it will be available to be purchased separately at a cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted October 16, 2013 Share #579 Posted October 16, 2013 Has anybody seen this? I expeced a miracle. The forums were full about Sony this, Sony that... ...among the things I disliked were for sure a shutter which slams like a hammer, and the battery that's good for under 300 shots. I don't want to comment the design. All in all, this really made me start appreciate Leica M even more!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted October 16, 2013 Share #580 Posted October 16, 2013 the only really bad drawback for me personally is the extremely loud and clunky shutter sound. Hahaha, call me old fashioned, but i like to hear the shutter. Tells, me the damn thing is working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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