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I sit at my desk and look at the office I can see remarkable detail, yet nothing looks 'etched' or synthetic

 

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I find some digital images look very false and don't capture the essence of the real world

 

 

Nicely put

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By the way—I just stumbled across another voice regarding the Apo-Summicron-M 50 mm Asph (sorry for digressing). In one of his reviews, Ming Thein said, "Perhaps the best way of describing this lens is transparent. You see your subject, and not the signature of the lens—which is what I personally prefer."

 

Seems that all who ever tried this lens are in perfect agreement about this point.

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Well, I disagree!

 

Thorsten's Noctilux images are very beautiful and have pushed me to rent one of those monsters to try it out for myself next month with the improved focusing of my M240... perhaps for portraits, the Noct is simply the best.

 

But I love my 50 AA for the refinement and controlled colors of its images, and mostly because of its unparalleled 3D rendering. I shoot at f/2, or sometimes at 2.8 to maximize crispness. The attached may not be dreamy, like a scene from Inception, but it seems smooth and soft to me. However, I do agree that less than 2.8 is boring.

 

Thorsten's newest "page," which I think was somehow related to this thread?, really nails Leica well in his opening. It is always the hallmark of Leica that the instruction manual is unintelligible... it is as though Leica is saying, "Look, we know what we are doing, and if you did, you would not read these silly pages. Please don't bother us with technical questions either because we busy trying to figure out our strap-lug-attaching machine. It did not come with instructions either."

 

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Well, I disagree!

You do?!? :confused:

 

I see your picture and read your post but I don't see any disagreement in there. To the contrary—the picture perfectly illustrates the Apo-Summicron's "transparency", even in this small format.

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You do?!? :confused:

 

I see your picture and read your post but I don't see any disagreement in there. To the contrary—the picture perfectly illustrates the Apo-Summicron's "transparency", even in this small format.

 

Yes, I disagreed that the 50 AA lacks an interesting and characterizable signature in its images, given that the lens introduces so little alteration from "reality" other than separation between focus plane and its surround. I understood Ming Thien and Thorsten to offer this opinion and that you subscribed to it. For me, the 50 AA has a remarkable, unique and pleasing character (at f/2 or so) that I have not experienced with any other lens.

 

Interesting concept of transparency, 01af... how did you interpret the last take in Inception? Was DiCaprio experiencing the tumbling top only mentally, or also physically?

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Yes, I disagreed that the Apo-Summicron-M 50 mm Asph lacks an interesting and characterizable signature in its images ...

Aw ... I think I'm starting to understand where we—apparently—disagree. Well, this lens does have an interesting and characterisable signature: It's the total absence of any lens-specific signature ;)

 

 

... given that the lens introduces so little alteration from "reality" ...

That's the point exactly.

 

 

I understood Ming Thein and Thorsten to offer this opinion and that you subscribed to it.

As a matter of fact, I didn't subscribe to Ming's and Thorsten's opinions. Instead, I developed my opinion solely on my own devices, and then found out that Thorsten and Ming have developed the same. This might look like an academic sophistry to you, but to me it's a world of a difference.

 

 

For me, the Apo-Summicron-M 50 mm Asph has a remarkable, unique, and pleasing character [...] that I have not experienced with any other lens.

Yes, it most definitely has.

 

 

Interesting concept of transparency, 01af ... how did you interpret the last take in Inception? Was DiCaprio experiencing the tumbling top only mentally, or also physically?

Huh? DiCaprio is an actor, so you are talking about some sort of movie or TV series episode here? I don't like DiCaprio, except his performance in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"

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01af, no, I waste no time on sophistry (not even with my siblings). Perhaps you and I take different meanings from the same terms... and so it goes.

 

We agree about DiCaprio... but the movie Inception is good. To the extent that one appreciates the suggestive power of images shot by Thorsten (and others) at f/0.95, the visuals and plot of the movie will also be fascinating.

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I am delighted when I get a notification from Thorsten in between all the actual spam I do get. And the good part is that by signing up to newsletters like this one, you can then increase the efficiency of your spam filter and get less spam.

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Thanks. I had not noticed it was only to 70mm. I am less and less impressed by the lens, thought I do understand that the higher ISO of the camera make up for it, and the larger sensor of the X Vario vs. Digilux 2 make the end result in terms of DOF the same.

 

I think future Leica X Vario models may be more and more light strong as they can probably pack more glass inside the lens. As they did with the D-Lux 6 that went to become a f/1.4 lens.

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I don't like DiCaprio, except his performance in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"

 

I can't say I'm keen on him either and I agree that his performance in What's Eating Gilbert Grape was superb. It was the first film I'd seen him in, and Johnny Depp also.

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