TX400 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1381 Posted June 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) M is for meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Hi TX400, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1382 Posted June 7, 2013 An APS f/2 zoom in a small parckage? What are you thinking about folks? I'm not sure the X Vario deserves to be defended but what we are reading here borders absurdity sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1383 Posted June 7, 2013 Well, I prefer an optical OVF, and returned the EVF, because, while it is the best EVF to date, I still prefer using the OVF occasionally supplemented with the LCD. I also don't think the RX1 was just an experiment, and I'll bet that the rumored new RX camera will simply be a different focal length, but still remain modular to use with the RX accessories, which I'm fine with. I like the modular nature of the RX1. You can add grips, viewfinders, etc., and then strip it down for ultimate packability. Hi Douglas I quite agree - I might even be interested if they bring out a 50mm version (never could deal with 35mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1384 Posted June 7, 2013 It is M for Mirrosless i'm afraid. It's M for Marketing I'm certain I agree - completely silly. . . . all the best Jono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1385 Posted June 7, 2013 Hi DouglasI quite agree - I might even be interested if they bring out a 50mm version (never could deal with 35mm). I think they should broaden it a bit and make another one 24 or even 21 . That might lead to an 85 version later, unless they are going to make an interchangeable one , which may be slightly bigger, but I wouldn't rule out . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasf13 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1386 Posted June 7, 2013 Hi DouglasI quite agree - I might even be interested if they bring out a 50mm version (never could deal with 35mm). Yeah, I was a 50mm guy, too, but the M9 somehow changed that for me, and I found myself only shooting my 35 Cron. I have a feeling the next RX would be a wider wide, but who knows? A 35mm and something like a 75-85mm would be a nice combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil75 Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1387 Posted June 7, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, the X Vario sample photo logs do not contain any aperture data, just the exposure time. Room for a little surprise... ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibitller Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1388 Posted June 7, 2013 Would it be possible, for de new leica M mini, that is was a bifocal lens, for exemple a bi-cron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo.Battista Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1389 Posted June 7, 2013 Well, the X Vario sample photo logs do not contain any aperture data, just the exposure time. Room for a little surprise... ? Maybe a fast 50 (equivalent) mm lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1390 Posted June 7, 2013 Would it be possible, for de new leica M mini, that is was a bifocal lens, for exemple a bi-cron Anything is possible - but that is highly improbable dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1391 Posted June 7, 2013 Jono pictures are clearly, I'd say, from a zoom with even a decent macro capability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koiwan Posted June 7, 2013 Share #1392 Posted June 7, 2013 So, in conclusion, would you rather buy RX1 or the new mini m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willjanurgucken2000 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1393 Posted June 8, 2013 Yeah, I was a 50mm guy, too, but the M9 somehow changed that for me, and I found myself only shooting my 35 Cron. I have a feeling the next RX would be a wider wide, but who knows? A 35mm and something like a 75-85mm would be a nice combo. When shooting the RX1 with the OVF are you relying on the audio beep for focus confirmation? Or is there some other cue that you use - hearing the lens drive motors stop? I have always liked EVFs, but trying to imagine OVF + AF has me really intrigued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1394 Posted June 8, 2013 Jono pictures are clearly, I'd say, from a zoom with even a decent macro capability. And a typical APS-C rendition i would say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1395 Posted June 8, 2013 if the specs are correct, at its size and weight one would have to call is a FAT mini. Really, 24oz, that is heavier than many DSLRs and at 5.23" x 2.87" x 3.74" it is anything but pocketable. No Mini and No M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasf13 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1396 Posted June 8, 2013 When shooting the RX1 with the OVF are you relying on the audio beep for focus confirmation? Or is there some other cue that you use - hearing the lens drive motors stop? I have always liked EVFs, but trying to imagine OVF + AF has me really intrigued. That was my biggest concern, too. While the AF of the RX1 isn't exactly blazing, it nearly always locks on, and you can "feel" the AF lock with the camera in your hands. I know that it sounds a little convoluted, but I was surprised how well it works. I've been testing it a lot, and I rarely make a focusing error, even compared to my X100s' OVF. Of course, if there's an AF or metering situation that looks particularly tricky, I can just use the LCD, but that doesn't seem to be happening very often with this Voigtlander OVF. That's why I sent the EVF back There's also a little green dot that lights up at the bottom of the LCD when focus is achieved, but that would require you to look down and maybe pull the camera a bit from your face. Focusing by feel works nicely for me, although YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1397 Posted June 8, 2013 A rather dogmatic comment considering we still do not know the exact specification of the new camera(s). When did Leica ever make a mediocre camera ... ie a Leica design as distinct from another manufacturer's modified design? dunk Both the X1 and X2 are both mediocre IMHO and the new 'mini M' X Vario will be likewise. Not to say they won't sell plenty of them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TW528 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1398 Posted June 8, 2013 And a typical APS-C rendition i would say. The images look a bit soft too me. Viewed at 100% it looks slightly out of focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TW528 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1399 Posted June 8, 2013 Both the X1 and X2 are both mediocre IMHO and the new 'mini M' X Vario will be likewise. Not to say they won't sell plenty of them though. Both the X-Vario and the X2 use a 16.5 mp APS-C sensor so I wonder if they are in fact the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TW528 Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1400 Posted June 8, 2013 if the specs are correct, at its size and weight one would have to call is a FAT mini. Really, 24oz, that is heavier than many DSLRs and at 5.23" x 2.87" x 3.74" it is anything but pocketable. No Mini and No M. Wait a minute... it's bigger than the Fuji x100 and that has a viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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