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Still I much prefer a camera which includes a excellent optical viewfinder and a medicore EVF over a camera with a very good EVF but no OVF. ;)

 

Of course I also would like very much to have a improved EVF.

 

Considering my experiences with the Olympus EVF and the problems to get a sharp picture with one of my lenses on the M9, I am not so sure of that any more...

 

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Considering my experiences with the Olympus EVF and the problems to get a sharp picture with one of my lenses on the M9, I am not so sure of that any more...

 

Peter

 

Maybe your lens needs calibration?

 

I also use some EVF cams including the EM1...I use face detection most times and get quite some images where the focus is either slightly in front or back or sometimes even focused in the background, even though the DOF is usually larger than that when I shoot with the Leica.

I also hate the viewfinder delay. When I shoot EVF I never feel confident if I did get the moment or not. I always feel to have to check afterwards.

These are the reasons why for me OVF do work better.

IMO Rangefinder works very well for 35 and 50mm, 75 and 90 is ok but not great, and 135mm difficult to use. So it also depends on the focal lengths one is using.

Lately I have used the EVF on the M for 21mm and for 135mm, everything else I use the rangefinder/OVF.

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Maybe your lens needs calibration?

 

I also use some EVF cams including the EM1...I use face detection most times and get quite some images where the focus is either slightly in front or back or sometimes even focused in the background, even though the DOF is usually larger than that when I shoot with the Leica.

I also hate the viewfinder delay. When I shoot EVF I never feel confident if I did get the moment or not. I always feel to have to check afterwards.

These are the reasons why for me OVF do work better.

IMO Rangefinder works very well for 35 and 50mm, 75 and 90 is ok but not great, and 135mm difficult to use. So it also depends on the focal lengths one is using.

Lately I have used the EVF on the M for 21mm and for 135mm, everything else I use the rangefinder/OVF.

 

Even for the 21 mm you do not need the EVF. Focus with the OVF and frame with the Live View. Presently considering to buy the EVF but cannot see the logic for it. I am using 21, 28,35,50 and 75 mm. I do not have a problem with the 75mm as the OVF on the M 240 is very accurate.

Only reason i see is the use of EVF at an angle.

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..I also use some EVF cams including the EM1...I use face detection most times and get quite some images where the focus is either slightly in front or back or sometimes even focused in the background, even though the DOF is usually larger than that when I shoot with the Leica.

I also hate the viewfinder delay...

Judging by my little Fuji X-E2, current EVFs have no significant delay and focus magnification allows to focus quickly and accurately most manual lenses including wides (21, 24 & 28mm in my limited experience) at incredibly slow apertures like f/8 or f/11. I don't know how they work with such wide Dofs but they work, at least mine does you can trust me... I still prefer rangefinders personally but criticising EVFs will become harder and harder with modern cameras.

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Judging by my little Fuji X-E2, current EVFs have no significant delay and focus magnification allows to focus quickly and accurately most manual lenses including wides (21, 24 & 28mm in my limited experience) at incredibly slow apertures like f/8 or f/11. I don't know how thew work with such wide Dofs but they work, at least mine does you can trust me... I still prefer rangefinders personally but criticising EVFs will become harder and harder with modern cameras.

 

Indeed, that is the general opinion but i have tried the XT1 and the EM1 EVF's but for me they cannot replace the OVF. Despite the progress in EVF technology i simply dislike them. Hence my reluctance to buy an EVF for the M 240.

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Maybe your lens needs calibration?

 

The thing is, I have equal reason to blame it to the lens, the camera or myself. And that is the infuriating thing, due to the nature of rangefinder focussing, I have probably to send in the lens, the camera and possibly all other lenses I own, in the hope to get a system which works together. These are the moments where one can get a bit grumpy about rangefinders and a bit appreciative about EVFs which allow you to focus via the sensor itself.

 

 

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Still I much prefer a camera which includes a excellent optical viewfinder and a medicore EVF over a camera with a very good EVF but no OVF. ;)

 

Of course I also would like very much to have a improved EVF.

I prefer always EVF I dont see any interest today to have an OVF

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I prefer always EVF I dont see any interest today to have an OVF

 

I've seen you write this lots of times on this forum now, I simply cannot understand this, I hate looking at a screen I do it too much for my profession already.

 

Of course opinions opinions.

 

I prefer a optical viewfinder!

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If you prefer Electronic Viewfinders, the M system appears to be the wrong system for you.

There is of course the T now, but a camera with an integrated viewfinder should be preferable. The brand is rather irrelevant.

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If you prefer Electronic Viewfinders, the M system appears to be the wrong system for you.

There is of course the T now, but a camera with an integrated viewfinder should be preferable. The brand is rather irrelevant.

It's very nice to care about me but I know exactly my needs

The T has a small sensor an dit is not a complete system

ans when I bought the M9 it was the only system compact (lenses + body)

Now things are changing and I certainly sell all my Leica gear

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I had a bad experience doing that. I sold most when Leica did not go digital, moving into a Canon 10 D plus lenses. It cost me quite a bit buying Leica back a few years later.

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