Rick Posted February 12, 2014 Share #201 Posted February 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I dont understand all the EVF bashing...if you don't use it thats your choice.For me its invaluable option that adds tremendous value to my Leica M. I use the RF 90% of the time, but to have the option to slide on the EVF and use it for a macro shot, or even in conditions where its very difficult to focus with Noctilux is priceless to me. I also vote for an improved option. The VF-4 would be nice. Why do you quote me about bashing the EVF? I like the concept. I just don't use it because, it freezes the camera up in warm situations. It doesn't work right. Leica screwed up the implementation of the EVF. I thought everyone understood that Leica screwed the pouch on the EVF. Leica even reported they had an update in firmware to solve the temperature problem way back in September of last year. What happened with that? Like you, I'd love to have the VF-4. Realistically, that will never happen. Leica hasn't even figured out how to get the VF-2 to work right. If, I were you, I'd be writing Leica and asking for a firmware release that solves the crappy implementation of the VF-2. Dreaming about a VF-4 is just ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheshireCat Posted February 12, 2014 Share #202 Posted February 12, 2014 Leica even reported they had an update in firmware to solve the temperature problem way back in September of last year. What happened with that? I guess that was supposed to be the "improved stability when using EVF-2" in firmware 2.0.0.11 (Oct 2013). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 12, 2014 Share #203 Posted February 12, 2014 I guess that was supposed to be the "improved stability when using EVF-2" in firmware 2.0.0.11 (Oct 2013). That firmware only dealt with color and lens correction along with some limited bug fixes. Very limited in scope. It addressed none of these other problems like the EVF heat issues that Leica acknowledged and stated they would fix in the next update. I think they just swept it under the rug. Too bad they are so unresponsive. I guess they think we are stupid and have short memories. I suspect Leica is already on to the next Leica M-mini and they are allocating zero resources to the M240. Kind of like the abandonment of the firmware problems they never fixed on the M9. I guess we have seen the end of the 240 fixes. Oh well, it is is a nice camera... too bad Leica just didn't fix the last little niggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted February 12, 2014 Share #204 Posted February 12, 2014 I guess we have seen the end of the 240 fixes. I still have a little hope for Auto-ISO in manual mode. But I doubt we'll see new features, let alone new hardware support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Clennan Posted February 12, 2014 Share #205 Posted February 12, 2014 Curious what the issues are regarding the "heat issue" with the EVF? Seems I am in the dark on this one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted February 12, 2014 Share #206 Posted February 12, 2014 Curious what the issues are regarding the "heat issue" with the EVF? Seems I am in the dark on this one... it freezes up your M240 altogether to the point you have to pull battery out to reboot it (this does not happen if EVF is not in use). It is majorly reported from many Asian users..who shoots in hot and humid environment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2014 Share #207 Posted February 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) You do not have to pull the battery on a "heat freeze" Simply switching off and on clears the jam. Otherwise disabling "auto switchoff" will prevent it. At least, that was my experience in Africa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted February 12, 2014 Share #208 Posted February 12, 2014 You do not have to pull the battery on a "heat freeze" Simply switching off and on clears the jam. Otherwise disabling "auto switchoff" will prevent it. At least, that was my experience in Africa. thanks on the info on the auto switch off! definitely will come in handy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 12, 2014 Share #209 Posted February 12, 2014 Better buy another battery though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2014 Share #210 Posted February 12, 2014 I’ve got four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 13, 2014 Share #211 Posted February 13, 2014 .......mmmmmm ...... Still patiently waiting for a heat related lock-up with the M+EVF .... Currently in Cyprus and happily shuffling the EVF between M and X-Vario ...... And if you want to see how it should have been implemented on the M the take a look at how it works on the XV ...... ........ In fact the ergonomics and ease of functionality implemented on this little camera puts some aspects of the M to shame ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted February 15, 2014 Share #212 Posted February 15, 2014 I've been using my M + EVF regularly through our hot Sydney summer weather and have yet to experience a camera freeze. Of course, now I'ce written this the camera will do so next time I use it . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neli Posted April 26, 2014 Share #213 Posted April 26, 2014 Any News in Evf-4? Just to being the thread back. Digilloyd claims some CPU issues concerning data bandwidth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 26, 2014 Share #214 Posted April 26, 2014 I've been using my M + EVF regularly through our hot Sydney summer weather and have yet to experience a camera freeze. Of course, now I'ce written this the camera will do so next time I use it . Maybe those intense forest fires you had melted the temp sensor inside your M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted April 26, 2014 Share #215 Posted April 26, 2014 I love that it has a built-in diopter. Let's hope it works on the M240. I bought one of those VF4's, because the diopter correction goes to -4. The VF2 only goes to -3. It did not work on my 240. Now I use the VF2, but added an eyecup, which costs $12, and makes a world of difference in the viewfinder image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted April 27, 2014 Share #216 Posted April 27, 2014 I'd settle for leveling lines in the VF-2. I didn't buy a $7k body to use it like an XE-2 full time. And for landscapes, the current finder is fine. I'm only using it to frame. Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted May 9, 2014 Share #217 Posted May 9, 2014 Any News in Evf-4?Just to being the thread back. Digilloyd claims some CPU issues concerning data bandwidth. Spoke to a Leica rep today (T launch in perth) and asked if there will be an upgrade to the EVF4 T some point. I was told "no, not going to happen, it is incompatible with the processor in the M" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9, 2014 Share #218 Posted May 9, 2014 Better buy another battery though. Just set your brain to "Tick-Tock" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neli Posted May 9, 2014 Share #219 Posted May 9, 2014 Spoke to a Leica rep today (T launch in perth) and asked if there will be an upgrade to the EVF4 T some point. I was told "no, not going to happen, it is incompatible with the processor in the M" Ouch That's a serious oversight, how many people bought a Leica Evf and now can't spend more money upgrading. Also I'm pissed because that's a $7000 camera and, you know, it feels cheap to have a CPU incompatibility. And, it smells like BS. I'm a software guy, but shouldn't it be possible to bridge the incompatibility? Might not be cost effective, unless it's really a bit size problem. Thanks for the info in any case, feeling a little hrumph. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted May 9, 2014 Share #220 Posted May 9, 2014 Luckily I tried the VF2 at the shop before ordering one. It is very difficult to use for anything but framing. Focusing is not accurate enough, unlike the EVF in my Sony A7, probably due to the low resolution and refresh rate. I suspect this is one of the things that Leica will upgrade whenever they decide to release the M240P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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