appleman Posted November 13, 2011 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In September this year I was unfortunate enough to have my Leica M8.2 + 4 lenses stolen. However my insurance company has coughed up and I have over £9k to spend on new equipment. My choice will be an M9P with the new 35mm Summilux which will eat up most of the money. My question to you is what would you buy for £9k. I would be interested to hear hour comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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topoxforddoc Posted November 13, 2011 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2011 Glad to hear the insurers coughed up. i would just buy a M9 (not sure I’d bother about the M9P) and the 35 lux (if you can get hold of one). You can buy some other glass later on the used market as funds permit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 14, 2011 Share #3 Posted November 14, 2011 I would not spend the big bucks on any digital M before seeing what the M10 looks like so i would buy another s/h M8.2 with lenses in the meantime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted November 14, 2011 Share #4 Posted November 14, 2011 I like your idea. I have an M9 + 5 lenses and I strive to vary my usage. But when pressed I usually reach for the 35mm Summilux as the one-lens choice. Sometimes I wonder just how things developed from my original setup which was M6 + 35mm. ... Maybe add a 75 or 90 later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 14, 2011 Share #5 Posted November 14, 2011 Camera and lens are excellent choices, but the key question is what lens are you going to buy and use until a Summilux 35 asph becomes available at the official list price in 1-2 years;). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleman Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted November 14, 2011 Hmm, very interesting so far. I shall probably buy the 50mm Summilux now and put a 35mm on order, I have been told 3 months max. Still deciding on a black M9 or the M9P, being more discreet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted November 14, 2011 Share #7 Posted November 14, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Alternative approach.... Buy Ricoh GXR or Sony NEX-5N with EVF and Novoflex M-E adapter, that is about £1K. No more M9 SD card shenanigans or cracked sensors. Further £7K buys lots of M lenses; for instance £2000 - 35mm f2 £2500 - 50mm f1.4 & £2500 - 75mm f2 Good glass is for ever, digital cameras are like bubble gum. Still £1k to splash on say MacBook Pro or buy 35mm 1.4 instead of 35f2 above only add few quid from your own pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted November 14, 2011 Share #8 Posted November 14, 2011 +1 I would prefer the Ricoh and wait for the coming Leica. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 14, 2011 Share #9 Posted November 14, 2011 I would take a more futureproof solution and buy an MP and whichever lenses you prefer. Could also buy the gear to set up a darkroom whilst you're at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 14, 2011 Share #10 Posted November 14, 2011 So many choices here and good suggestions. Personally I would not rebuy M8.2, but get FF M9 if money burning a hole in your pocket. That said, waiting for a new model of bubble gum a wise move also. Getting GMX as a companion camera can work, but hear getting M module way delayed due to Thai flooding.But, then you have spent money on a non Leica bubble gum, where you could always put that money into additional Leica lenses in the future. The answer could lie in your level of patience and your personal financial analysis of the situation, I.e., the bubble gum analogy. So how's that for a non-answer, answer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted November 14, 2011 Share #11 Posted November 14, 2011 Buy one lens + the M9/P and buy your wife a ring for christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted November 15, 2011 Share #12 Posted November 15, 2011 Buy a Fuji X100 to tide you over until the M10 is released next fall. Also, get in line to pick up a Lux 35mm in the meanwhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleskin Posted November 15, 2011 Share #13 Posted November 15, 2011 Well you can buy an excellent used M8 for under 2K USD and have lots of cash for great used Leica glass and new Zeiss and Voigtlander glass. I have a used M8 and will get a Nex 5n for high ISO and video. Seriously, lenses are the best investment you can make, especially used Leica lenses. All of my beloved Leica lenses (used) have doubled if not tripled in value since I bought them. Nice thing is they are an investment you can use and enjoy. Digital cameras are in some cases throw away and in others, not worth what you pay new (an M8 is not throw away, neither will an M9 be, but each are NOT worth the purchase price!). For 9K I would buy: $2000 M8, $599 NEX 5n, and consider used Leica lenses and/or the excellent Zeiss lenses and Voigtlander lenses. I have 2 Voigtlander lenses that I love: the 35mm f1.2 Nokton and the 15mm Super Wide Heliar. I also have an f1.0 Noctilux that I love and bought for 4K but in todays market, I would go for the f1.1 Nokton. The Zeiss f1.4 50mm is a great lens as well and is worth consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted November 15, 2011 Share #14 Posted November 15, 2011 You have some interesting choices and I wouldn't rush. We were in a similar position but with speakers, which were destroyed in the Christchurch earthquake and we had an insurance payout. (We went for cheaper bookshelf ones but I miss the floorstanders.) Bodies: Do you still want an M? Various compacts from Ricoh, Panasonic, Olympus accept M lenses -- but these are not rangefinders. Do you mind the 1.5X crop factor of the M8 or M8.2 or the 2X crop factor of a compact? Wait for M10? Or wait for M10 and buy M9 if reduced? That is probably waiting too long. Film M? You can buy a lot of film with savings and get a digi compact. But would you miss a digital M? Buy secondhand and save? Possibly, if you get a good one. Lenses: Do you want the same as before (bearing in mind crop factor)? Do you do more wide/ standard/ long shooting? Do you need fast lenses? IMHO the best value/performance choices would be: Wide: 2.4 or 3.4/24 Elmarit or Zeiss 21 or 25 Standard: 2/35 Summicron AND 2/50 Summicron Long: 2.5/75 or 2.8/90 Elmarit OR: You could eliminate the least used and go for a faster 'lux version in one of the other categories. OR: Yo could get the fastest of everything -- but you probably wouldn't get any change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted November 15, 2011 Share #15 Posted November 15, 2011 appleman, welcome back. I remember your lovely landscapes from around your county. Sorry to hear your story, but it does have a happy ending. My advice would be to buy a black M9. Why wait for an unknown replacement; life moves on and we do not get any younger! Why not attend a familiarisation day at Leica Mayfair where you will be able to try a wider choice of lenses than anywhere else in the UK? That would be well worth the rail fare. Brett runs some of these events. Pay for a day and you can try kit of your choice around Mayfair. David Stevens in Manchester also runs similar events. You will get lots of advice on lens choice with a chance to try before you buy. Check his website. As you have waited some time without Leica kit, waiting for the next scheduled Leica M9 day would make sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 15, 2011 Share #16 Posted November 15, 2011 You have some interesting choices and I wouldn't rush. We were in a similar position but with speakers, which were destroyed in the Christchurch earthquake and we had an insurance payout. (We went for cheaper bookshelf ones but I miss the floorstanders.) Bodies: Do you still want an M? Various compacts from Ricoh, Panasonic, Olympus accept M lenses -- but these are not rangefinders. Do you mind the 1.5X crop factor of the M8 or M8.2 or the 2X crop factor of a compact? Wait for M10? Or wait for M10 and buy M9 if reduced? That is probably waiting too long. Film M? You can buy a lot of film with savings and get a digi compact. But would you miss a digital M? Buy secondhand and save? Possibly, if you get a good one. Lenses: Do you want the same as before (bearing in mind crop factor)? Do you do more wide/ standard/ long shooting? Do you need fast lenses? IMHO the best value/performance choices would be: Wide: 2.4 or 3.4/24 Elmarit or Zeiss 21 or 25 Standard: 2/35 Summicron AND 2/50 Summicron Long: 2.5/75 or 2.8/90 Elmarit OR: You could eliminate the least used and go for a faster 'lux version in one of the other categories. OR: Yo could get the fastest of everything -- but you probably wouldn't get any change. The crop factor of the M8 is 1.33 and the one for the Ricoh GXR m-mount or Sony NEX5N is 1.5. 4/3 format has a crop factor of 2. The GXR is the only one with no AA filter and offsetting microlenses tailored for m-mount lenses and thus produces files closer to the digital M look than the other non leica alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted November 15, 2011 Share #17 Posted November 15, 2011 Get a preowned m9 and 35 lux fle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 17, 2011 Share #18 Posted November 17, 2011 I like Wda's recommendation for what it's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted November 17, 2011 Share #19 Posted November 17, 2011 Definitely the black M9-P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit Posted November 18, 2011 Share #20 Posted November 18, 2011 Leica Digilux 2. Leica M3. Invest most of the rest in the best lenses you can find and wait for the M10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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