sfage Posted October 27, 2011 Share #101 Posted October 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, hell... I only have a digi 3 and I can't even remember if I have ever actually shot a JPG. I don't think so. I don't even know why I would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Hi sfage, Take a look here The NEX 7 Leica lens thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gyoung Posted October 27, 2011 Share #102 Posted October 27, 2011 I really have to ask: why the $%^& do people write articles like this? For starters, if you own an M9 (with lens) and you shoot JPG, seriously... "DiaF". In fact, I have coined a new internet abbreviation: FaBaJ. (find a bridge and jump). For the love of Jesus... please remove yourself from the gene pool. To me its like comparing two film cameras on the basis of the 6x4 prints from a minilab. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Holy Moly Posted October 28, 2011 Share #103 Posted October 28, 2011 My only problem is to know if those new Sony cameras are useless or not with M wides. I would be quite happy to see significant results with such lenses but i'm like sister Ann, i don't see anything coming. as expected, the Heliar 15mm is absolutely useless as other wide M lenses on the NEX7: Sony NEX-7 with wide angle Leica lenses – A quick test and Ricoh GXR A12 Comparison! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted October 28, 2011 Share #104 Posted October 28, 2011 Too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted October 28, 2011 Share #105 Posted October 28, 2011 as expected, the Heliar 15mm is absolutely useless as other wide M lenses on the NEX7: Sony NEX-7 with wide angle Leica lenses – A quick test and Ricoh GXR A12 Comparison! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS Looking pretty ugly. So for m-lens shooters, the GXR is the only serious game in town, other than an m-mount RF:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 28, 2011 Share #106 Posted October 28, 2011 Is it me or did the Nex5 perform better with CV 15/4.5 in Paolo's link above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted October 28, 2011 Share #107 Posted October 28, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Only asking; isn't Voightlander 15mm also troublesome on M9? If so than GXR exceeds M9 in way it handles 15mm and also not fully relevant in judging any camera, especially one not designed round wide M lenses. Let us have handling comparison for Voightlander 12mm as ultimate extreme and only 18mm FOV FF eqivalent before we go further in praising any individual camera discussed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted October 28, 2011 Share #108 Posted October 28, 2011 Is it me or did the Nex5 perform better with CV 15/4.5 in Paolo's link above? Huff shows examples with a lot of sky. And this is where color shift shows evidently. The scenes shot in the link above are more forgiving re casts or color shift. Secondly, Huff seems not to have applied any PP, something we don't know from the other source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted October 28, 2011 Share #109 Posted October 28, 2011 Only asking; isn't Voightlander 15mm also troublesome on M9? If so than GXR exceeds M9 in way it handles 15mm and also not fully relevant in judging any camera, especially one not designed round wide M lenses. Let us have handling comparison for Voightlander 12mm as ultimate extreme and only moderate 18mm FOV on FF before we go further in praising any individual camera. It's not only the CV 15 which looks terrible. Also the NEX output with the 21 Elmarit looks pretty useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 28, 2011 Share #110 Posted October 28, 2011 The idea of using my M lenses on a mirror-less camera (particularly a Nex 7 when it becomes available) sounds appealing to me. However, all of the reviews and discussions that I have found so far do not specifically explain the necessary steps to a decent exposure. For anyone who has actually used an M lens on a mirror-less camera - exactly what do you do? I sometimes use Leica and one Voigtlander lens on the Panasonic G1, the 25mm f/.95. I focus wide open, then stop down, and then the camera sets the shutter speed (aperture priority is the default when camera set for 'no lens' which is necessary to use such lenses.) Experience tells me when I will need an aperture to shoot at 1/125 or faster, but I can still check it during viewing. It is possible to use image magnification on any part of the image after you have framed. Regardless, with the Pana G1 it is clumsy as heck under even ideal conditions because the live view is coarse, magnification slows one down a lot, too. I am so spoiled by the M. Live view amplifies the light in low light and dims it in bright light, with the later being, to me, quite disconcerting because raising the camera eye-level use darkens, or 'greys' the image (my impression) which disturbs eye dilation, or at least seems to. Since I got a .95 50mm lens for the M, the only use I have for the Pana G1 is with a compact intervalometer, although I can do the same with an M9 tethered to the Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Holy Moly Posted October 28, 2011 Share #111 Posted October 28, 2011 Only asking; isn't Voightlander 15mm also troublesome on M9? If so than GXR exceeds M9 in way it handles 15mm and also not fully relevant in judging any camera, especially one not designed round wide M lenses. Let us have handling comparison for Voightlander 12mm as ultimate extreme and only 18mm FOV FF eqivalent before we go further in praising any individual camera discussed here. stunning pics from the VC 12 - even in panoramic view incl. stiching Marina Barrage, Sunrise | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 28, 2011 Share #112 Posted October 28, 2011 Only asking; isn't Voightlander 15mm also troublesome on M9? Not in my experience. I set it as a 16mm lens. There is profound vignetting but one still gets an image across the whole frame. Adjusting the vignetting is fairly straightforward, but in my experience, one cannot eliminate it. I've never tried the 12mm. http://www.digoliardi.net/5th_st.jpg The picture above is full-frame 15mm Voigt on M9. Let the whole image load - it is a 3 stage compression. Crappy picture, certainly. I was too low and too close, but it shows a bit of the behavior. (If anyone is interested, the place is available for $325,000) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 28, 2011 Share #113 Posted October 28, 2011 I've never tried the 12mm. These edge comparisons (5n vs Ricoh) look interesting. Look much sharper on the Ricoh. I'm looking forward to Ricohs full-frame module that slips on their new body with integral 4MP finder Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted October 28, 2011 Share #114 Posted October 28, 2011 As it a topic of conversation I took this snap-shot yesterday… and it is a “snapshot” using the hand held NEX5n pano-mode. 15 mm lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/161511-the-nex-7-leica-lens-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1829108'>More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted October 28, 2011 Share #115 Posted October 28, 2011 As it a topic of conversation I took this snap-shot yesterday… and it is a “snapshot”using the hand held NEX5n pano-mode. 15 mm lens. Which lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 28, 2011 Share #116 Posted October 28, 2011 Anyone contemplating buying the NEX-7 for use with Leica or other M wide angle lenses might want to read Steve Huff's new comparison of the NEX-7, NEX-5n and the GXR M Mount. Interesting read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted October 28, 2011 Share #117 Posted October 28, 2011 CV 15mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted October 28, 2011 Share #118 Posted October 28, 2011 Rip, Looks pretty decent on a monitor. What post processing did you do to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasebi Posted October 29, 2011 Share #119 Posted October 29, 2011 Looking pretty ugly. So for m-lens shooters, the GXR is the only serious game in town, other than an m-mount RF:) Naw, I think the nex 5 leaves the GXR in a pretty shaky state thanks to hands down superior MF, not needing annoying profiles for wide angles, a much superior EVF and better value. Ricohs menus are something only a fanboy would brag about and the Sony matches it there thanks to excellent customization too, despite that always being used as a cheap shot but the anti sony brigade. Honestly even when reviewers try to say this or that about the IQ being better on the GXR m-mount, it comes off as just a bone being thrown and not anything based outside of opinion because they never post samples that actually show it. But we all have one and mine is just that too, kinda why I would only settle for the real deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 29, 2011 Share #120 Posted October 29, 2011 Which wides have you been using with your Nex5? No color shift problems with them? No vignetting either? Would you have some samples to display. Just curious, Sony user as well here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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