ianman Posted May 10, 2011 Share #41 Â Posted May 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hoped to be the first Italian... Â Surely the first Italian lived long ago ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 Hi ianman, Take a look here Anyone received Mr Puts new Compendium yet?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
k-hawinkler Posted May 10, 2011 Share #42 Â Posted May 10, 2011 Surely the first Italian lived long ago ! Â Â 1861:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Verrips Posted May 10, 2011 Share #43 Â Posted May 10, 2011 I got mine today, without the little book. Â I'll start reading next week when we're in Alto Adige:). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 10, 2011 Share #44  Posted May 10, 2011 I got mine today, without the little book. I'll start reading next week when we're in Alto Adige.  ... which in 1861 wasn't yet Italy...; btw, I always found, year after year, many Dutch in Valle Aurina-Ahrntal... are you of of the group of lovers of that splendid area ? (sorry - OOT...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob139 Posted May 10, 2011 Share #45 Â Posted May 10, 2011 ...The only downside I can see is an average of two syntax/grammar/usage/typo errors per page. Â Two at least. An editor would have been a good idea. But I also agree on the book being very impressive, and a venture that can only be applauded. Â Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 11, 2011 Share #46  Posted May 11, 2011 It is a wonderful book, possibly the definitive Leica guide. Yes, definitely. Mine arrived today. I am in Germany. I ordered—and paid via PayPal—on January 31st, 2011. And I must say, wow! I mean, WOW!!  On the front cover it says, Limited Edition ... so everyone who hasn't ordered yet should do so immediately.   The only downside I can see is an average of two syntax/grammar/usage/typo errors per page. Uh oh ... I am afraid there also are several errors with regard to content. For example, the chapter about the Fisheye-Elmarit-R 16 mm contains a lot of nonsense.   But the quality of the contents and illustrations makes that quite a minor point. That's right. After all, this was a 600-page one-man project which covers many different fields from overall history to scrupulous details about past and present products—so I guess a few errors are inevitable. Puts had some help with layout and design, but the contents is all his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted May 12, 2011 Share #47  Posted May 12, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got my copy today, very much worth the wait! Rob  Can it still be ordered, and if so, how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted May 12, 2011 Share #48 Â Posted May 12, 2011 Can it still be ordered, and if so, how? Â You can buy mine for 3000 euros... Â or take a quick look at some of the previous messages in this thread :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted May 12, 2011 Share #49 Â Posted May 12, 2011 Don't sell it for 3,000 Euros. It got to cost 22,000 Euros, and the price will go up as the M9 Titanium raise in price. Â Just got mine, haven't unpacked it yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 12, 2011 Share #50 Â Posted May 12, 2011 Uh oh ... I am afraid there also are several errors with regard to content. For example, the chapter about the Fisheye-Elmarit-R 16 mm contains a lot of nonsense. Â Ah-yes I see what you mean. Obviously he has had no time to delve into the theory of map projections and confuses it with distortion. Well, outside the geographical world it is a bit esoteric. We are mostly Mercatorial creatures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share #51  Posted May 12, 2011 Finally today mine was delivered to germany as well. Including the Pocket Guide. Just skimmed through it and saw the first typos  But besides that it looks great!  Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted May 12, 2011 Share #52 Â Posted May 12, 2011 ... Uh oh ... I am afraid there also are several errors with regard to content. For example, the chapter about the Fisheye-Elmarit-R 16 mm contains a lot of nonsense.... Ah-yes I see what you mean. Obviously he has had no time to delve into the theory of map projections and confuses it with distortion.... Â You mean it's defective? Â I say return it for one that works right out of the box! Â I certainly wouldn't accept one with anything more than cosmetic blemishes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted May 12, 2011 Share #53 Â Posted May 12, 2011 I just got my copy as well (no pocket guide ) and find it very concise. I also like the layout. One doesn't see much books these days any more having two pages of text without any images - nothing for the reading impaired... Â Nevertheless, certainly worth to have. Â Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted May 13, 2011 Share #54  Posted May 13, 2011 I would have received mine today, but I did not. Instead, I have been victimised by a criminal racket.  It seems that Mr Puts, in all innocence, has hired DHL to deliver the books. But DHL does not deliver the books. In Sweden, they pass this buck to an outfit called Posten Logistik, an offshoot of what was once known as Postverket, the Swedish Post Office, under that name a scrupulously honest operation. And Posten Logistik charges the recipient SEK 250 extra for delivery, if the recipient is a private person.  They try to give this operation a gloss of legality, to be sure. They put a slip of paper in the mailbox saying that to their amazement, I must have had something better to do than waiting inside my front door for a month or so, never leaving it, in the expectation that somebody would pay me an unannounced visit sometime. (It is perfectly clear from my address that I am not a business enterprise, with a receptionist in permanent attendance.) So if I want the goods, I have to spend the next office day – in this case, next Monday – waiting for them, in which case they will deign to hand the book over to me – against an extra fee of 250 crowns. My own time is of course utterly worthless compared to that of these gentlemen ...  So the upshot is that Mr Puts is defrauded by DHL, who won't fulfil their contractual obligation to deliver the goods to the recipient, and I am blackmailed by Posten Logistik, in spite of the fact that there is no contract whatsoever between them and me that would oblige me to pay them a rotten Euro cent. Mr Puts does not get what he paid for, and I cough up the protection money. Beautiful. Only, I am tempted to quote the immortal dictum of John Pierpont Morgan, when his tame lawyers had cooked up a really crooked deal: "Why bother to make it legal when it is so beautiful as it is?"  The old man from the Age of the Rule of Law (very long ago) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintola Posted May 13, 2011 Share #55 Â Posted May 13, 2011 "I would have received mine today, but I did not". I had almost the same experience as Lars described above. I wasn't at home, when the book arrived and they put that slip of paper into my postbox. The courier company is DPD. Â The situation is however better here in Finland that they don't take that extra (250 SEK as Lars said), but they try again on Monday. According to that paperslip there seems to be also the third try and after that You have to pick it up from their warehouse. Which of course is a rather long way where I live. Â I telephoned them after coming home and they were able to give me the time (+/- 2 hours) on next Monday when they will bring it. Must sit tight at home on Monday afternoon. Â So I hope on Monday I will have the book I have been looking forward a long time. Â - vintola - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
octo Posted May 13, 2011 Share #56 Â Posted May 13, 2011 Ordered directly on May the 5th, got it today (no pocket guide), in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 13, 2011 Share #57 Â Posted May 13, 2011 Lars, I perfectly understand your mood, having lived similar circumstances on my skin & blood, paying mysterious "fees" for the so called "last mile" : the business model of companies like DHL, together with the "privatization" of some basic services to the citizen, like postal delivery, proves to be a sort of organized robbery for people. Â The not-so-old-man of the glorious Post Office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted May 13, 2011 Share #58  Posted May 13, 2011 (...) The situation is however better here in Finland that they don't take that extra (250 SEK as Lars said), but they try again on Monday. According to that paperslip there seems to be also the third try and after that You have to pick it up from their warehouse. Which of course is a rather long way where I live. I telephoned them after coming home and they were able to give me the time (+/- 2 hours) on next Monday when they will bring it. Must sit tight at home on Monday afternoon. (...)  Here in Germany, you can call up the courier service and ask to have it delivered to a different address (as long as this is not explicitly ruled out by the sender, which is what Apple does); this way, you could either have it rerouted to your work address, to a friend, or to a more local depot service.  Best, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted May 13, 2011 Share #59  Posted May 13, 2011 Lars, Luigi—why are you accusing DHL when the offender obviously is Posten Logistik? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted May 13, 2011 Share #60 Â Posted May 13, 2011 Interesting, Lars. Here in Denmark DHL deliver to the door and will slip a note they've been here and will try again, and then I think the third time, they will leave a note and ask you to call them to tell when it can be delivered. You may also pick it up at their office. Â So UPS and DHL actually works well. Â If someone sends a letter on the other hand ... oh my! ... then it goes via the Post Danmark organization which deliver letters and other stuff sent via foreign post offices. They will open the envelopes and read invoices etc and add import tax (usually 5-10%) and VAT (25%) accordingly, and will add a fee for handling of 160 dkr (22 Euro) for their work, no matter the value. And then they won't even try to deliver it but will send a letter that something unspecified is ready to be picked up and paid for. Just had some WhiBal cards sent that way, so one has to keep an eye out for what type of delivery one picks. In the case of the WhiBal it had been cheaper for me to select the most expensive and fastest delivery by UPS. Â Mr Puts book on the other hand, slipped right into my hands from the DHL guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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