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…and finally this one removes all possible doubt! Thanks for playing along, and congratulations to Ronald whose turn it is now. The car is a Fiat Osca Coupé, but I don't know the year or whether it is 1500/1600cc. Whatever, it's lovely and I wish modern cars looked like this!

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Pininfarina body. Quite similar if a little smaller to his Flaminia Coupé. I believe this is the 1500. The 1600 had a more rounded body. 

Wilson

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What a lovely car!

The OSCAs are also Pininfarina bodied, differences are disc brakes, hotter engine, air intake slot in the bonnet and extra head beams. They are rare and more sought after. Good investment!

My uncle had the standard FIAT 1500 Roadster when he was young. Grandmas gift to the driving license 😉

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Interesting re the Goodwood  Pre-66 category?

DVLA aren't usually wrong re the registration year but it may have a previous non-UK registration on first sale that could cloud things -likewise it's build year could easily actually be '65 as it was UK registered in April '66...

I know the previous GRRC owner of my '65 Bristol wanted it specifically as opposed to the '66 series so as to be in the pre-66 cohort.

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1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said:

Pininfarina body. Quite similar if a little smaller to his Flaminia Coupé. I believe this is the 1500. The 1600 had a more rounded body. 

Wilson

I think they might have had the blueprints of the rear of the 1960 Ferrari 250GT on the wall while working on this...😉

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OK gents, here comes the next one ... left some generous space around the door handels ;-))

 

 

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vor 47 Minuten schrieb wlaidlaw:

BMW 320 Cabriolet - the post Baur one? 

Wilson

E21 was the first BMW 320 I know. Or are you talking about the 8cyl. 3200 CS Cabrio they only made one car for Mr. Quandt? Or the 02 cabrio which was made by Baur, even the non-targas.

Would all be the wrong car guess.

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Thius woiuld appear to be a bit later than the last car (the OSCA coupe), and looks British to me.  The front disc brakes (suggested by Rona!d) help place it then.

 

BTW:  In about 1965 my second car was a 1960 FIAT 1500 roadster with a de-tuned OSCA engine.  Great little car, Pininfarina body, instant one-handed top up or down (It was fun to pull up next to the British roadsters of the time as the drive er and passenger struggled to raise or lower the top.  I'd nastily raise and lower my top in seconds, and then drive off.

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I can't think of any road cars that had inboard front brakes other than the Cord L29 and 810/812 cars and 2CV's. Other than various Jaguar and Rover (P6), I think that nearly all other inboard rear brake British cars were race cars. I think some Allards with the de Dion rear axle had inboard drums and also maybe the Mk.2 Frazer Nash Le Mans Replicas, which used a very similar axle to the Allards but these were really race cars. Many years ago I worked on a hill climb sports car called the Chapman(Phil not Colin)-Buick. That had an ex-Allard de Dion rear axle with finned inboard alloy brake drums, which were rather inadequate for the 455 cu in (7.5L) V8 engine. It was a very pretty car with a fibreglass body moulded off a Maserati 300S. My Lotus 62B had inboard rear discs unlike the regular 62, as the 62B used a Hewland DG400 gearbox. Some other Lotus race cars had either front or rear or both inboard brakes, e.g. Lotus 12. 

Wilson

PS Just remembered the FWD racing twin cam Alvis had inboard front drums. 

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb stuny:

Thius woiuld appear to be a bit later than the last car (the OSCA coupe), and looks British to me.  The front disc brakes (suggested by Rona!d) help place it then.

 

BTW:  In about 1965 my second car was a 1960 FIAT 1500 roadster with a de-tuned OSCA engine.  Great little car, Pininfarina body, instant one-handed top up or down (It was fun to pull up next to the British roadsters of the time as the drive er and passenger struggled to raise or lower the top.  I'd nastily raise and lower my top in seconds, and then drive off.

Stu, that´s the same fun I have the Z3 Roadster without electric top. If weather is soso, I leave the roof cover away and the car can be opened or closed even when driving up to 50 km/h.

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@ Wilson: So far you might learn of another car with front inboard discbrakes soon if someone get´s it. Naturally I´ll post new crops tomorrow which will uncover the car very quick. Hoping someone has an idea earlier.

But before I´ll post further crops, here some hints:

The maker in question has a big history of high end super racecars even decades prior to the vehicle in question appeared.

The car has a sporty name but was not made for racing. Private drivers loved to tune the engine for that purpose. The soft top version of this vehicle had not been used for racing (as far as I know),

A device in the engine system made a lot of trouble ending in engine damages before warranty was over, especially with cars used in winter time and mountain areas. That cost the factory a lot of money and nearly let them go bancrupt.

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