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vor 9 Stunden schrieb wlaidlaw:

... 1904 Panhard et Levassor but the weather just got worse and worse during the week. Not only has the Panhard no hood/roof or windscreen but the external contracting band brakes on the rear wheels only, which have minimal braking in the dry, have next to none when the bands and drums get wet. ...

Wilson, some recommend taking a heavy boat anchor with you when on the road with such an ancient braking system 😉

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28 minutes ago, Rona!d said:

Wilson, some recommend taking a heavy boat anchor with you when on the road with such an ancient braking system 😉

Ronald, 

Steep hills and wet cobbled streets are a real nightmare with rear wheel brake only cars. Generally the rule is go down a hill in the same gear you would need to use to climb the same hill. On the same trip, when I was driving our "rescue" car, a 1913 Silver Ghost, I went straight through a set of red traffic lights in a village with just such a steep approach and cobbled streets. Even though I was descending the hill into the village in second gear at around 10 kph, I could get no retardation at all from the rear wheel brakes. The car came out of a museum and the rubber on the high pressure tyres had gone rather hard. Luckily the village was deserted with everyone sheltering from the torrential rain. Fortunately, the Panhard was far enough behind that I was able to phone and warn them to find a route round the village and that was the point we decided to give up and go home. 

At the beginning of the trip, before the rain started. 

Wilson

 

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I'll follow with a very different but possibly equally hard "I don't think anyone will get it" poser...

PS From Wilson's "stable" I'll take the car almost out of frame on the far left although I think caution would still be required on a very wet day!

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4 hours ago, NigelG said:

...I'll follow with a very different but possibly equally hard "I don't think anyone will get it" poser...

If this IS the car I think it is then it's all because a few days ago I was doing some 'further reading' as a bit of a virtual paper-chase concerning another of Nigel's posts which showed the Evanta recreation of the Aston DB4 GT-Z.

Is it a Dowsett Comet?

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Blimey I thought that was going to be impossible...😳!

Yes it’s a Comet - though the company now seems to be called Faeger. I met them at Bicester and had a good look over the car while we discussed their design cues. Obviously they are evoking the Zagato style but crossed with a hint of Cobra.

I wasn’t entirely convinced by the cabin which was maybe trying to be a bit “Bugatti” but seemed instead a bit modern-Aston-meets-TVR but with a wooden wheel chucked in. Lots of bespoke options though so I think that could be overcome with a bit of thought and it could just be me...

The LS3 motor is a known quantity - but I might prefer to go the Bristol 411 route with it - there were several 411+LS3 conversions going on in the Bristol workshops last time I visited (before their demise).

 

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Which would I rather have a Dowsett Comet which will fire you straight off the road when you first open the throttle over-enthusiastically, when it is raining or a nice low mileage 4WD Porsche 992 Turbo S at around the same price  -  hmmmm? 

Last February I was driving a modern "official" Cobra with a 7 litre/600 BHP Roush engine in South Africa, when it came on to rain hard. It was close to impossible to get it to go straight down the road and was a singularly unpleasant driving experience. An original 1965 4.7L Cobra Mk.2 is a far nicer and more balanced car than the over-powered modern version.  My experience with these low production "optimism over experience" cars is that every one I have driven to date has been pretty awful, the absolute worst being a Lotus Exige derived Hennessey, with over 1000BHP. 

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17 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

That museum is on my list to visit as it has a superb collection but it is very long way out of my normal route from the UK to my house in France down the east side...

I think you will find it a fascinating experience when you do get to visit. As well as the restored exhibits they have a rather nice set-piece where some of the museum's 'Work in Progress' items are placed on show in a manner not too dissimilar to the underside of the house in Hektor's post a bit earlier;

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The one at centre back looks interesting...

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1 hour ago, NigelG said:

Blimey I thought that was going to be impossible...😳!......Yes it’s a Comet - though the company now seems to be called Faeger....

I quited liked the look of the Evanta Zagato and, as mentioned earlier, was led down the Dowsett path. The 'Double-Bubble' Barchetta in the link you posted looks rather fetching and, to allay fears raised by Wilson, would be very suitable for Dry Road Use Only - which should lead for a more pleasant experience than the Roush Cobra!

Anyway; onwards and upwards (backwards and downwards?). The usual, please!

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18 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

Philip, 

Type 40 (better known in the UK as "The Molsheim Morris Cowley) maybe? 

Wilson

Oh, I'm sure you will be able to identify the car FAR more capably than I could myself, Wilson; my knowledge of the Bugatti marque is gossamer-thin!

That area of the museum, although open to view, is 'no entry' to the general public and there is nothing to indicate what any of the vehicles are nor whether they will be up-and-running anytime soon. From the introduction section of the museum's cataloque (I quote);

"Each year three or four 'new' old cars join the collection on display, coming from the reserve stock after having undergone a complete restoration in our workshop during the winter months..."

I really do hope you will manage to pay them a visit some day. To say the range of their exhibits is somewhat eclectic is to understate the situation greatly!

Philip.

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16 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

Maybe one of the "big" MG's - an 18/80 of around 1931? 

Wilson

A bit later than that, Wilson, but you are thinking along the correct lines.

This should help narrow things down quite a bit;

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