ottocrat Posted March 17, 2010 Share #101 Posted March 17, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there anyone in Brussels that can confirm the definition of "Perpetual"?... Reminds me, I should be drafting legislation not lurking on the Leica boards... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 Hi ottocrat, Take a look here Is the new M8 firmware just around the corner?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Johnny_Johnson Posted March 17, 2010 Share #102 Posted March 17, 2010 Hi Andy, Then, in your case, I don't see that you are in conflict with Frank's comment. Wouldn't you be considered a Leica user but not a customer of Leica the company? It's pure speculation on my part but I would think that it's the wealthy/very-well-off that keeps Leica going and the balance of us just buy their leftovers and castoffs and really don't add that much to Leica's bottom line. Since you made the comment that you did do you see things differently? Later, Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 17, 2010 Share #103 Posted March 17, 2010 Ever so 'umble, I'll take the crumbs from the master's table... I know my place in the food chain. I am well down the chain when compared to those with yachts. Like I said, most of it was used, not all of it. The most expensive new toy I have ever bought was a Leica. I think that counts as being a customer and I will not accept any criticism from any body for not buying the latest, newest toy in Leica's box just because someone else is. I was ready to buy a new M8 about a year ago, until I borrowed one from my dealer for a weekend. And I was ready to buy an R10, until... I bought something else instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris M Posted March 17, 2010 Share #104 Posted March 17, 2010 Why is everybody waiting for an M8 upgrade? Isn't the 2.004 firmware good enough, and hasn't enough time passed since then to be (completely happy) with that firmware? I think that what ever comes are way in a firmware upgrade will be really uneventful, in regards to picture (QUALITY). And everyone should have by now excepted the nuances of the M8. But I hope for an upgrade anyways because it phycologicaly make me feel that I squeezed more value out of my M8 LOL. chris m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted March 17, 2010 Share #105 Posted March 17, 2010 My M8.2 performs flawlessly, but I can hardly wait for the rumored firmware update. I want something to complain about like the folks in the M9 forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megg Posted March 18, 2010 Share #106 Posted March 18, 2010 I think Leica should simply create few progressive levels of cyan drift correction setting would solve a lot of user request. It doesn't have to be a full range of lens model. Users can just choose the most appropriate correction to their own needs. I really think that saves a lot of effort. Until then, m8 &.2 firmware almost perfect. Hope Leica does it smartly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted March 18, 2010 Share #107 Posted March 18, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why is everybody waiting for an M8 upgrade? Isn't the 2.004 firmware good enough, and hasn't enough time passed since then to be (completely happy) with that firmware? I think that what ever comes are way in a firmware upgrade will be really uneventful, in regards to picture (QUALITY). And everyone should have by now excepted the nuances of the M8.But I hope for an upgrade anyways because it phycologicaly make me feel that I squeezed more value out of my M8 LOL. chris m If you will read the various posts about the subject, you will get a rather detailed answer for your question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris M Posted March 18, 2010 Share #108 Posted March 18, 2010 ramy G, Its a whole lot of ranting ,.......thats all it is.......the M8 has reached its max potential for price development cost ratio's, period. As I said, everybody needs to except the thing they can not change, and change the thing they can,.... like buying an M9 LOL;) ....... what little can be done with a mi-nute firmware upgrade I believe won't shave any time off post processing , nor increase picture quality, besides the M8 has been out for 3 years now, everybody should be pretty comfortable with how it works and what its limitations are. Again, no hard feelings too anyone here, just forget about an upgrade and use the camera for what it is. Ps..... All the answers and work arounds too the idiosyncrises are rite here in this forum....... I LOVE MY M8 !!! chris m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 18, 2010 Share #109 Posted March 18, 2010 ....I just think, that the guys (and girls ) who gave LEICA the last turn-around could have deserved a little note yesterday, as to:... "M8 update in progress and pending .. ...until the bugs from the M9-firmware-update have been found out by it's users. Leica Camera AG makes sure you will profit from their experience." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami G Posted March 18, 2010 Share #110 Posted March 18, 2010 ramy G, Its a whole lot of ranting ,.......thats all it is.......the M8 has reached its max potential for price development cost ratio's, period. As I said, everybody needs to except the thing they can not change, and change the thing they can,.... like buying an M9 LOL;) ....... what little can be done with a mi-nute firmware upgrade I believe won't shave any time off post processing , nor increase picture quality, besides the M8 has been out for 3 years now, everybody should be pretty comfortable with how it works and what its limitations are. Again, no hard feelings too anyone here, just forget about an upgrade and use the camera for what it is. Ps..... All the answers and work arounds too the idiosyncrises are rite here in this forum....... I LOVE MY M8 !!! chris m. I, for once, am waiting for a full bit uncompressed Raw option. Will that not affect image quality? as anybody who played with DMR vs. M8 files would tell you- it will. Is that too much of an investment to expect? Doesn't seem to be- it is about disabling a compression algorithm, not inventing a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted March 19, 2010 Share #111 Posted March 19, 2010 "M8 update in progress and pending .....until the bugs from the M9-firmware-update have been found out by it's users. Leica Camera AG makes sure you will profit from their experience." Source?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falk61462 Posted March 19, 2010 Share #112 Posted March 19, 2010 Why is everybody waiting for an M8 upgrade? Isn't the 2.004 firmware good enough, and hasn't enough time passed since then to be (completely happy) with that firmware? I think that what ever comes are way in a firmware upgrade will be really uneventful, in regards to picture (QUALITY). And everyone should have by now excepted the nuances of the M8.But I hope for an upgrade anyways because it phycologicaly make me feel that I squeezed more value out of my M8 LOL. chris m Well: AWB while being significantly improved still delivers random results - even in plain vanilla day light situations. Can't leave the house without expodisk or invest time in pp. Smaller ISO steps would be highly desireable for me besides the AWB issue... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted March 19, 2010 Share #113 Posted March 19, 2010 ramy G, Its a whole lot of ranting ,.......thats all it is.......the M8 has reached its max potential for price development cost ratio's, period. As I said, everybody needs to except the thing they can not change, and change the thing they can,.... like buying an M9 LOL;) ....... what little can be done with a mi-nute firmware upgrade I believe won't shave any time off post processing , nor increase picture quality, besides the M8 has been out for 3 years now, everybody should be pretty comfortable with how it works and what its limitations are. Again, no hard feelings too anyone here, just forget about an upgrade and use the camera for what it is. Ps..... All the answers and work arounds too the idiosyncrises are rite here in this forum....... I LOVE MY M8 !!! chris m. Chris---no, there's no work-around for the write issues still existing in the M8. Since you haven't run into them, evidently, count yourself lucky. There are also a number of other defects that need fixing, that Leica has agreed will be fixed. That's not a rant in the slightest, so I don't know where you got that idea. BTW--I love my M8 too, but you should read the thread before you dismiss it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigSplash Posted March 19, 2010 Share #114 Posted March 19, 2010 Chris---no, there's no work-around for the write issues still existing in the M8. Since you haven't run into them, evidently, count yourself lucky. There are also a number of other defects that need fixing, that Leica has agreed will be fixed. That's not a rant in the slightest, so I don't know where you got that idea. BTW--I love my M8 too, but you should read the thread before you dismiss it Jamie you are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 19, 2010 Share #115 Posted March 19, 2010 Congratulations on your conciseness and correctness Frank! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megg Posted March 20, 2010 Share #116 Posted March 20, 2010 while we all have patient, hope to see m8 firmware update ASAP! Com'on Leica.... make us proud!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squarenegs Posted March 20, 2010 Share #117 Posted March 20, 2010 I bought my M8's on the basis that the M digital cameras would be, like the film M's, cameras for the long haul. If I had wanted a camera body with a life cycle shorter than that of a fruit fly I would have bought another Japanese DSLR... of whatever brand. Certainly, When the M8 was introduced Leica's advertising copy encouraged this notion in both first time Leica buyers and those who were already owners of M series film burners. If Leica delivers less than full service and support for the M8 into the future, including firmware updates, they will be giving no more to their customers than what can be had when buying an 'entry level' DSLR for a few hundred dollars. Based on Leica's history with film cameras, I think most of use expected a product life cycle of more than 18 to 24 months when we bought into the M8 If I get cut a drift like I did with my R-D1 I'll think long and hard before I buy an M9 ...or any other Leica digital camera. Best regards to all on the forum... Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 20, 2010 Share #118 Posted March 20, 2010 Sam, I know I'm stating the obvious, but if you're happy with the M8 there's no obligation to upgrade once a replacement hit the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 21, 2010 Share #119 Posted March 21, 2010 Sam, I have already had much more than 18 to 24 months from my M8's and I can positively affirm that I have had infinitely more from them than what's offered with any 'entry level' DSLR as you stated. Now when it comes to being 'cut adrift', you got it right with the RD-1. However, even with that one, I knew what I was buying into and it did allow me to enter the digital RF world at the time I wanted to. Remember, sales talk aside from any offerer, it is incumbent upon us all to assess if the deal on offer suits us. The seller has no idea what we need. Only what they want to sell us. Caveat emptor or something like that. If you or I made the wrong choice on the day, it won't get any better into the future. In my case, the M8's are doing just fine. I suspect I got it close to right. If upgrades do appear, fine, but I am not hungry for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted March 21, 2010 Share #120 Posted March 21, 2010 My assumption at this point is that there is a M8 firmware upgrade in the works... They have just released a M8 Beta version to the M9 users to test it and will fix the bugs before releasing it to us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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