Guest Gilgamesh Posted July 13, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 13, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Coming from the likes of the brilliant D800 and the G zoom lenses I can tell you that the Leica 50mm f1.4 and the 90mm f2 are producing some subtly superb results. I am doing almost no post production in LR and add nothing in Presence, and in particular I am thinking about saturation here. In fact I have added no Presence at all in over 2000 images since my time with the M. I have been out in the glaring mid day sun this week too with results never being anything other than chock full of detail, losing absolutely nothing in the highlight nor the shadows. Amazing results! I am using these lenses both time again in preference to the Nikons and now we're into the post production phase I am quite in awe of some of the results. It's oft' subtle…. but it's all in the composition, the retained detail, the look I am getting. The discipline of a fix lens helping without question. I wonder how close some of this is to medium format? Similarly I am working far more with just these two lenses, only adding the 28mm F2.8 occasionally, mostly I am trying to master the far tighter crop of the 90mm(than I envisage) when I look through the view finder, finding myself moving ever further backwards! I am trying to create a degree of space that you find in the work of say Mark Power and Stephen Shore for example, images that transcend mere shots, somehow, creating a cohesive image that I am unfamiliar with in my work up to this year. It's very much work in progress and the M is the tool of choice. It is not without problems, often the first image is over exposed, start up is slow, I shoot mostly on C as S is so dire and sooooo s l o w and I have had some contact / electrical issues (?). I bought a 3rd party leather 1/2 case and the LV from a.n.other company (Leica ain't exactly on the ball with this camera as well we know from this site and others) but the images thus far far exceed expectations. I have found the live view to be most useful. That's all. ps - don't reply as this is my report & no, I will not share my work on-line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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250swb Posted July 13, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 13, 2013 Photography could do with a good way to describe photographs that are imagining's and concepts rather than something to look at. Otherwise it's very much like describing cheese without being able to share the taste of it, Describing Cheese pointless. Steve 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted July 13, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 13, 2013 somewhat strange way to sign off a report Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 13, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 13, 2013 That's all.ps - don't reply as this is my report & no, I will not share my work on-line. Why not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 13, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 13, 2013 Weird - if you are not prepared to share it why write about it ? Statements like these need examples. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 14, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Come on guys... he likes the camera and is inspired and is enjoying it. Why do you have to spoil it with your remarks? I expect these kind of comments from jaapv, but viramati and MarkP, you are usually so supportive. Gilgamesh, I agree with most what you are saying and, yes, I find these things you say to be mostly true. Enjoy your new M. It is an entirely different beast than the D800. I hope you enjoy your new M as much as I do mine. Edited July 14, 2013 by RickLeica Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 14, 2013 Share #7 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Rick, You're reading way too much into my two words. I wasn't being unpleasant or aggressive at all. You will notice that I was supportive by adding my thanks to Gilgamesh's post - in fact the only person to do so. I'm just confused as to why he stated so adamantly that he didn't want to post any examples. Thats all - no more, no less. Edited July 14, 2013 by MarkP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 14, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 14, 2013 Mark, got it. It just seemed out of character. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 14, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 14, 2013 ...I am doing almost no post production... Did you use manual WB or a personal color profile? Just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted July 14, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 14, 2013 certainly not being aggressive just seemed a slightly odd way to finish the post. interesting findings in any case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 14, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 14, 2013 Taking the piss, I thought. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 14, 2013 Share #12 Posted July 14, 2013 It is not without problems, often the first image is over exposed, start up is slow, I shoot mostly on C as S is so dire and sooooo s l o w and I have had some contact / electrical issues (?). Insert bullsh1t prescribed wording about Leica quality here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted July 14, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Clearly there are two themes within the original post. One regarding the operability of the body and since I work with what I'm given I wouldn't debate the OP's opinion. Second, are the comments about the potential of the body / lens combination to achieve subtle image quality and a desired style and this I found interesting especially since I could follow up on the two photographers referred to within the post. This made the post worthwhile. Edited July 14, 2013 by lucerne clarity Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 14, 2013 Share #14 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) I just got this fantastic canvas and then I picked the best paint brushes that I could find. Now I'm trying to create a degree of space and color that you find in the work of, say, Vermeer and Rembrandt, for example, paintings that transcend mere impressions, somehow, creating a cohesive image that I am unfamiliar with in my work up to this year. It's very much work in progress and these brushes and this canvas are the tools of choice. And don't reply as this is my report & no, I will not share my work on-line. I am sure you'll find this interesting, and my post worthwhile, especially since you can follow up on the two painters I refer to. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Edited July 14, 2013 by malland Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 14, 2013 Share #15 Posted July 14, 2013 ....and this I found interesting especially since I could follow up on the two photographers referred to within the post. This made the post worthwhile. The point where Stephen Shore and Mark Power overlap is in each making large format images of the urban landscape, Shore in particular with an 8x10 view camera that allows exquisite detail and the ability with its movements to correct converging verticals and perfect the image. They are supremely well crafted and thought through, just setting the camera up would take many minutes, not to mention waiting for the light to be right, for cars and people to move, etc. Contemplation of the scene before pressing the shutter to refine the composition is also a feature of the work. Shore also works with space in a very different way to Power, being much more complex in viewpoint. Which makes any gripes about the M's slow start up and the first shot being under exposed seem out of kilter, since to get even the slightest bit close to the ethos of Shore and Power's large format work slowing down and planning is essential. If anybody else wanted to investigate the urban landscape work of Power and Shore and have a bash I would suggest a tripod is the essential piece of photographic equipment to get you on the way. Steve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted July 14, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 14, 2013 I just got this fantastic canvas and then I picked the best paint brushes that I could find. Now I'm trying to create a degree of space and color that you find in the work of, say, Vermeer and Rembrandt, for example, paintings that transcend mere impressions, somehow, creating a cohesive image that I am unfamiliar with in my work up to this year. It's very much work in progress and these brushes and this canvas are the tools of choice. And don't reply as this is my report & no, I will not share my work on-line. I am sure you'll find this interesting, and my post worthwhile, especially since you can follow up on the two painters I refer to. —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Understandable response Mitch, but aren't we allowed to be aspirational and have performance models? If I couldn't see examples of what my body/lens combo is capable of, I would have no target IMHO. Granted, that the OP didn't display his/her images, but at least we've been given some clues. (Google Search has its part to play). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 14, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 14, 2013 Gordon, sure, but my point is that there is nothing of interest in the original post, not to speak of the attitude. If he had in some way discussed the work of Power and Shore and how it inspired of influenced him, that could be interesting. —Mitch/Bangkok Paris au rhythme de Basquiat and Other Poems [download link for book project] Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted July 14, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Mitch and Steve. Thanks for elaborating on the problems surrounding this post. You've rationalised the problem that the post created. I sense the possible presence of very focused academic / professional input here, so I could be out of my depth and will revert to following the discussion. G. Edited July 14, 2013 by lucerne Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 14, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 14, 2013 You should always join in if you have a point to make and something to say Steve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted July 14, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 14, 2013 Yes, I agree. Gordon. there is no reason not to state your point of view. After all, that is what discussion is all about, which the original poster wanted to cut off. —Mitch/Bangkok Lanka Footsteps [M-Monochrom/Sri Lanka] Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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