daveleo Posted November 24, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 24, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) hello this is not a joke.... it's causing me some grief. i've had a dililux-2 for 2+ years and the camera is just great on many respects. my big BIG problem is that every time i point it at someone, the camera becomes the center of attention.... the moment collapses into a discussion about cameras or how much i paid for it etc etc etc..... it is really getting in the way of taking people pictures. so much so that i am now using either my voitlander or my nikon (both small film cameras) and to be honest i am looking at getting a commonly familiar digital camera so the camera becomes less intimidating. this is not my imagination .... the D2 attracts too much attention. the irony of it all. regards daveleo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrewer Posted November 24, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 24, 2006 Time to move to an "M"??? Leica still has that $500 rebate on film bodies, M7 & MP, going for the US and Canada. Put that 28 Elmarit ASPH on it and you're good to go until the budget can afford the M8. Thanks. Allan leicaGiftCertificate.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted November 24, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 24, 2006 I have the black Panasonic D2 model which I have blacked-out with black Gaffa tape so that there is no logos or anything to be seen from the front. That works. I have absolutely no discussions about cameras as I have whenever people spot the red dot. I'll be getting my D2 back tomorrow and plan to see what happens if I put silver Gaffa on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 24, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 24, 2006 my big BIG problem is that every time i point it at someone, the camera becomes the center of attention........ it also happens with small handguns. I agree this is a outrageous situation and Leica should do something about it immediately, 2 years is an unreasonable time wait for a fix!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipotto Posted November 24, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 24, 2006 I have the LC1 and recently aquired the Digilux 2. I see it both ways. On one side I like the inconspicuousness of the LC1, but playing around with the D2 I like the look, particuarly from the front, and it seems to have more street cred. I suppose it depends on the situation and whos attention its drawing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blovitch Posted November 24, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 24, 2006 Reading this forum often makes me smile... >> .. it also happens with small handguns. I agree this is a outrageous situation and Leica should do something about it immediately, 2 years is an unreasonable time wait for a fix!!!!! This really made me laugh out loud. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted November 24, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 24, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thorsten, i was sorry to read about the water issue u had with your D2. How much did the repair cost ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted November 24, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 24, 2006 The first thing people say when seeing my D2 is: "what's that? a Leeka"? never heard of that camera before. I always say: "oh, it's a famous brand... really good quality. Lie-ka" Then they say... "is it digital? because it doesn't look like it's digital." Me: "Yep, digital." Them: "Oh." Then I go ahead and shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted November 24, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 24, 2006 David, i too have the same issue with my d2. So much that i've got stickers covering the logos. i was thinking i may go for an L1 rather than a D3, but my interest in live-preview for use in quiet settings just got hit on the head as unworkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted November 24, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 24, 2006 this is not my imagination .... the D2 attracts too much attention. it is the lenshood that draws the attention and then the red dot i've experienced the same until i take the lenshood off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted November 24, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 24, 2006 Hmm... It's also the photographer that draws the attention. Hold your camera - any sort of camera - in an aggressive or conspicuous manner and you will get the attention you deserve. Dress as a tourist, likewise. Dress to blend in, keep your camera out of sight until you are ready to take a shot, and don't make any sudden moves and you'll be surprised what you can get away with. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 24, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 24, 2006 Straight out of the SAS manual page 56 second paragraph from the bottom 2.(IIIV)a starting with 'Poking a object... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveleo Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share #13 Posted November 25, 2006 yes, removing the lens hood might be a big step i hadn't thought about. i was thinking the LENS is too big, but its the lens hood that looks huge. putting black tape on the camera hurts .... it'll probably help this problem but (what a hypocrite i am) i really like the way the camera body looks.... but i guess you have to make compromises. as far as ME getting the attention....no..... its the camera, definitely.... i always thought the D2 said "very serious business here" when people see it...on the other hand, the voigtlander says "this guy is poor and just taking snapshots" . thanks for the ideas. daveleo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted November 25, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 25, 2006 Dugby, It was the Panasonic that died of water. It's the sensor and the repair will be 500$ (3.400 dkr) and I told them to go ahead. The D2 was hard to get but I found one finally as a replacement and extra. So I think I will stick with those two and not two D2s which I considered for a while. The handling is a bit different on them and the D2 is better build. I've experienced though that the D2 gives street credibility when you are with other photographers. At the MTV awards I just had a D2 and the Canon guys came along and talked Leica - because that is what their hearts beat for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 25, 2006 Share #15 Posted November 25, 2006 now that you mention it I used to get this " the voigtlander says "this guy is poor and just taking snapshots" . all the time when I was in Siberia, they could spot a voitlander or a leica at 20 paces, crafty beggers they were, well informed and great eyesight to boot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted November 25, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 25, 2006 Dugby,It was the Panasonic that died of water. It's the sensor and the repair will be 500$ (3.400 dkr) and I told them to go ahead. The D2 was hard to get but I found one finally as a replacement and extra. So I think I will stick with those two and not two D2s which I considered for a while. The handling is a bit different on them and the D2 is better build. I've experienced though that the D2 gives street credibility when you are with other photographers. At the MTV awards I just had a D2 and the Canon guys came along and talked Leica - because that is what their hearts beat for. Thorsten, when you say the handling of each is a bit different, cant you elaborate on that ? Riley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMaisey Posted November 25, 2006 Share #17 Posted November 25, 2006 .... the D2 attracts too much attention. You might consider painting it matte grey ... or cammo ..! Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted November 25, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 25, 2006 ..... it is really getting in the way of taking people pictures. Well I've read some lame excuses for justifying an M8 (black) but this takes the biscuit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTD Posted November 25, 2006 Share #19 Posted November 25, 2006 I've used my Ricoh GR1 for several years doing a project that involves candids pictures. As you probably know, the camera has a 28mm lens, so you end up being only a few feet away from people. One of my reasons for using the Ricoh is how inconspicious it is. To most people it looks like any other little compact camera. It doesn't even have a makers name on the front. I can see that photographers would possibly recognise it or a Leica, but I agree with the poster who said most people won't have heard of Leica. Is daveleo taking most of his photos outside camera clubs? ;-) I think bill hits the nail on the head – it's largely down to the way the photographer works. I've found that having a fixed focal legnth lens helps; I can usually frame the picture before the camera's raised to my eye, depth of field is so great, pretty much anything will be in focus. It may be (and I don't mean to imply any criticism) that it's the photographer being self conscious. A lot of people (me included) find it hard to take pictures of people and this makes you more self conscious, which subjects pick up on. If you think the sticky tape works give it a go. I know if I ever got an ala carte Leica I'd go for one with no engravings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 25, 2006 Share #20 Posted November 25, 2006 ... shy ones can stay home and take candids of their TV screen ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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