wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2009 Share #61 Posted September 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Erl, If you have Adobe Bridge, I think you should find that it reports your M8 serial number in Metadata. As has been reported a number of times, it also reports the absolute number of shutter actuations in hexadecimal. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Hi wlaidlaw, Take a look here Is inconsistent M9 distribution hurting Leica?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
george_b Posted September 30, 2009 Share #62 Posted September 30, 2009 Erl, If you have Adobe Bridge, I think you should find that it reports your M8 serial number in Metadata. As has been reported a number of times, it also reports the absolute number of shutter actuations in hexadecimal. Wilson Adobe bridge DOES report serial number. Also Make, Model, Serial Number, Focal length, focal length in 35mm, shutter speed, exposure compensation, ISO, bit depth, etc. If any one want a screen print please let me know. Same for M8 & M8.2 btw. Well it does on a PC, can't speak for a Mac btw. I don't speak hexadecimal but their is a Image Unique ID which looks like hex, a load nof zeros and CE at the end. Only thing missing compared with my Canon 1DsMkIII is Fstop - not surprising LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted September 30, 2009 Share #63 Posted September 30, 2009 I understood Leica has problems with the LCD deliveries. Maybe that has caused the slow down. Maybe the first batch was delivered with the last sapphire glasses ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 30, 2009 Share #64 Posted September 30, 2009 Adobe bridge DOES report serial number. Also Make, Model, Serial Number, Focal length, focal length in 35mm, shutter speed, exposure compensation, ISO, bit depth, etc. If any one want a screen print please let me know. Same for M8 & M8.2 btw. Well it does on a PC, can't speak for a Mac btw. I don't speak hexadecimal but their is a Image Unique ID which looks like hex, a load nof zeros and CE at the end. Only thing missing compared with my Canon 1DsMkIII is Fstop - not surprising LOL. You're talking about Adobe Bridge with an M9 file? So the serial number is getting into the meta data, but in some interesting new way that Capture One and Aperture (and LR) didn't expect, so that they all produce *********'s? That's interesting. I didn't see you report the unique ID, which Adobe tools report in hex for the M8s and some specialized tools like Cornerfix will output in decimal format. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted September 30, 2009 Share #65 Posted September 30, 2009 You're talking about Adobe Bridge with an M9 file? So the serial number is getting into the meta data, but in some interesting new way that Capture One and Aperture (and LR) didn't expect, so that they all produce *********'s? That's interesting. I didn't see you report the unique ID, which Adobe tools report in hex for the M8s and some specialized tools like Cornerfix will output in decimal format. scott I've just checked my M9 images in Bridge and only get a row of ******* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2009 Share #66 Posted September 30, 2009 John, I think we were all talking about the M8 serial number appearing in Bridge. Erl said his M8 serial number was not appearing from the M8 so what was the difference to an M9. George and I were explaining where the M8 serial number did show up. I think all are agreed that the M9 serial number is not currently included in the metadata, either DNG or JPEG. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted September 30, 2009 Share #67 Posted September 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) This may be off-topic in this thread, but.. .. is it clever to show the serial number of a camera in the exif? When users in this forum show pictures of their cameras they have reason to hide the numbers, for they may be misused under lots of circumstandings by unauthorized people. If the number is in the exif those risks get bigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 30, 2009 Share #68 Posted September 30, 2009 This may be off-topic in this thread, but.. .. is it clever to show the serial number of a camera in the exif? When users in this forum show pictures of their cameras they have reason to hide the numbers, for they may be misused under lots of circumstandings by unauthorized people. If the number is in the exif those risks get bigger. Whether or not it's clever to publish pictures with serial numbers in the EXIF or even with EXIF, I want that information present in my files to track the equipment and settings used in each shot. The EXIF data from pictures that I took with my M2 in the '70s is sorely missed. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_b Posted September 30, 2009 Share #69 Posted September 30, 2009 Whether or not it's clever to publish pictures with serial numbers in the EXIF or even with EXIF, I want that information present in my files to track the equipment and settings used in each shot. The EXIF data from pictures that I took with my M2 in the '70s is sorely missed. scott Here, here! If I want to publish pictures without EXIF data, for my own reasons, I can achieve that quite easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AgXlove Posted September 30, 2009 Share #70 Posted September 30, 2009 But are inconsistent dribbles on distribution hurting even more than the news leaks ever did? Nah - we Leica junkies will wait however long we have to to get our M9. Some who have no patience and/or an unrealistically inflated sense of self importance may get offended/mad/irritated/outraged/depressed/anxious about the wait, but I seriously doubt that they will say " 'F' it, cancel my order." JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted September 30, 2009 Share #71 Posted September 30, 2009 one person through one dealer in NYC, several in the UK, etc. Some of these persons may been lucky Actually that's not completely true. Leica is doing the best they can, actually while I was in NYC I found and saw the M9 at three different dealers (I have been in NYC from September 15th to 21st). They were Photo Vilage, Kurland Photo and Wallabie's on the 5th avenue. The first two dealers had already orders, so the only camera they had was going in those days, Wallabie's had the camera for sale, unreserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted September 30, 2009 Share #72 Posted September 30, 2009 Since my curiosity was aroused about the serial numbers I have checked back in Bridge and have to confirm that my M8 does get reported but not my M9. Neither get reported in C1, which is my principle converter. I must say I never looked for it so never missed it. How is it really useful? I think it was George_b who stated he misses the EXIF data from his early film cameras. I'm sure none of mine report that either. To be more serious I am curious how a lot of this data is really important or useful in the majority of cases. I have an archive that contains in excess of 500,000 images, all filed and numbered, but no EXIF data recorded. To be realistic most of those images I will probably never view again, but if I do I have a pretty good idea which camera, if I really want to know and the image gives me a good clue as to the lens and ............. hell, the image is what I should be interested in, not the statistics! Now all that is just me and I realize it has no connection with what other need or do. So the real question is, what do the 'statisticians' do with all that data that gets recorded? Am I missing out on some part of 'secret science' by not noticing it? Is it just that I am lazy and don't care about the 'numbers' or am I simply uniformed and should smarten up? Gentle answers only will be read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLT Posted October 1, 2009 Share #73 Posted October 1, 2009 I think what irritates people is the lack of or inconsistency of information. My M9 was going to be available last week but now my dealer has no idea when it might be and cannot get any information from the UK branch of Leica. If Leica was upfront and said to folks something like- "look - you can have them quick or you can have them good. We are currently building x per week and hope to ramp that up to y. Cameras ordered before or on release date should all be delivered by the last week of October. With the current waiting list we have of orders, cameras ordered now should be delivered by Christmas". Then we would all know where we were. An informed customer is a happy customer. Wilson Yes I agree! Mine was suppose to be in the country last week, and every call I've made (on almost a daily basis now:D) to the local dealer ended with uncertainty about when it's to arrive at all! It would be ideal if Leica or the distributor could give us an idea of when this baby is going to arrive in the country! An informed customer is definitely a happy one!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLT Posted October 1, 2009 Share #74 Posted October 1, 2009 Nah - we Leica junkies will wait however long we have to to get our M9. Some who have no patience and/or an unrealistically inflated sense of self importance may get offended/mad/irritated/outraged/depressed/anxious about the wait, but I seriously doubt that they will say " 'F' it, cancel my order." JMHO. I'm not sure I agree with your comment about self importance... but you are right in saying we will never say f*ck it, cancel my order... even though very tempting at times! I have trips planned from November onwards and would be ideal to have the M9 even though I have my M8. What is the point of having a superb camera when one can't use it to its optimum capacity?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted October 1, 2009 Share #75 Posted October 1, 2009 I'm not sure I agree with your comment about self importance... but you are right in saying we will never say f*ck it, cancel my order... even though very tempting at times! I have trips planned from November onwards and would be ideal to have the M9 even though I have my M8. What is the point of having a superb camera when one can't use it to its optimum capacity?! LLT, I know you really need two cameras for your planned trip(s), so I would start making polite requests to you know who about a loan M8 if your M9 does not come through. Rest comfortably in the knowledge that your skill as a photographer will far outweigh the difference between the M8 and the M9 as far as achieving your photographic objectives are concerned. However, live in hope until November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddale Posted October 1, 2009 Share #76 Posted October 1, 2009 Easy for you to say Erl - you got the one Melbourne M9 !! :-) Ed PS loving that streetshooter - I reckon it would work better with an M9.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK dan Posted October 1, 2009 Share #77 Posted October 1, 2009 I think those delays are acceptable so far. For Southeast Asia end of October/early November is current ETA. That may change. Distributor told me in Singapore alone 100 cameras are reserved. The longer the wait, the sweeter the arrival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted October 1, 2009 Share #78 Posted October 1, 2009 My dealer takes the opposite approach. He's not promising anything to a new buyer before early 2010, and since I ordered and paid just before announcement he 1) refunded the payment for the moment, and 2) tells me I'll be OK by Christmas and maybe even in November. So I don't call him every day, only once a week. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted October 1, 2009 Share #79 Posted October 1, 2009 Called my dealer today and delivery now expected mid October (I am on top of list). That is basically a two weeks delay vs what I had been announced. Seems that Leica knew from the start they would not be able to deliver as initially advertised (end Sept). Creating some buzz I guess. In the end, they are acting like any marketing company and in this case, a few weeks delay that is no big deal. If the product is good, it will sell anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted October 1, 2009 Share #80 Posted October 1, 2009 I ordered at Vistek in Toronto on 9/9/09 and was initially told there would be a 2-4 week backorder. The order status has been showing an expected ship date of 8th October, so imagine my pleasure at opening an e-mail three minutes ago saying it shipped out today! I shall be haunting the post office next week.... Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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