wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) If the leaked brochure is correct, the LCD on the M9 is the same TFT 230,000 pixel one that we have in the M8. Is it just me that finds this disappointing? LCD screens have moved on a long way in three years. I would have looked for an OLED screen of at least 500,000 pixels for the same 2.5 inch size. For the same or lower power consumption, this could have been far brighter for use in bright sunlight. I was trying to adjust EV in very bright sunlight last week on my M8 and I could barely make out the figures. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Hi wlaidlaw, Take a look here No upgrade to LCD for M9 - why not?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wilfredo Posted September 7, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 7, 2009 If that's the case, then you've given me another reason to continue enjoying my M8. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apitong Posted September 7, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 7, 2009 I remember posts of M8 users that would be happy having no LCD at all. Just shoot, and find out later. Just like film. LCD technology has advanced, and entry level cameras have better LCD's nowadays. Let's see if the M9.2 will have a more pixel LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 7, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 7, 2009 Regarding power use and brightness, you probably have a point, Wilson. Personally, I rarely chimp, set "review" to "off" the moment I buy any digital camera, and turn the screen on maybe twice in a day-long shoot, so the screen is mostly an afterthought. I guess with no live view to worry about, it was an afterthought for Leica, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted September 7, 2009 Andy, I quite often check the histogram and at the moment, even on max brightness, it is a struggle in sunlight. If you have the screen at max brightness, it has a noticeable effect on battery life (hardly a surprise). I have to admit to chimping to see that I have got the framing right as well, particularly on urban shots, where I don't want decapitated buildings. This is important when I have put the WATE on for a few shots and cannot be bothered to mount the Frankenfinder. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted September 7, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 7, 2009 The silver chrome M9.2 which will be released in about 18 months time will have a super new hi-res screen as part of the package. You could wait for that if it is important. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 7, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) thousands of photographers did very well in the last six decades. even on slidefilm. learn how you camera's lightmeter is working and you won't have to check in 99% of your shots. otherwise you better should get an camera with liveview that's exactly showing you what you get BEFORE you press the shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 7, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 7, 2009 I don't think many people use the rear screen for a detailed analysis of the image - I'm quite happy for the M9 to use the same screen as the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted September 7, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 7, 2009 thousands of photographers did very well in the last six decades.even on slidefilm. learn how you camera's lightmeter is working and you won't have to check in 99% of your shots. otherwise you better should get an camera with liveview that's exactly showing you what you get BEFORE you press the shutter. You can be sure about framing, exposing, lighting etc... Can you make sure that a group of more than 5 persons is ok and no one as blinked? My grand father's car had no seat belt.... so why should I use mine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted September 7, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 7, 2009 el.nino, thousands of drivers drove fine with Ford Model As but we don't drive them down the highway anymore unless they are the hot rod variety of course With that kind of reasoning you should be using silver plates and have a black cloth draped over your head when shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 7, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 7, 2009 I'm guessing they left out anything that might have pushed up the initial price. Maybe they will leave that for a later model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 7, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 7, 2009 I'm guessing they left out anything that might have pushed up the initial price I assumed the same - hence the lack of sapphire glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyIII Posted September 7, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 7, 2009 I hope that the M9 LCD monitor at least has the same scratch resistant sapphire glass as the M8.2, although the brochure does not say that it does. Rocky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryW Posted September 7, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 7, 2009 If it is exactly the same as the M8 they could be using up their existing stock of screens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 7, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 7, 2009 el.nino, thousands of drivers drove fine with Ford Model As but we don't drive them down the highway anymore unless they are the hot rod variety of course With that kind of reasoning you should be using silver plates and have a black cloth draped over your head when shooting. But i am very ok with driving a car that does not show me the speed as exactly as one with a digital tachometer. all i wanted to say is that the lcd screen is one of the less important things on a digital camera. by knowing what you are doing you won't need it for 99% of your shots, though it might be nice to have for some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted September 7, 2009 But i am very ok with driving a car that does not show me the speed as exactly as one with a digital tachometer. all i wanted to say is that the lcd screen is one of the less important things on a digital camera. by knowing what you are doing you won't need it for 99% of your shots, though it might be nice to have for some people. I had the privilege last month to watch some top end professionals at work on a couple of shoots using MF and full frame DSLR's and I was surprised to see them continuously chimping both the images and histograms. So I think this "Oh I would never chimp" is a sort of self-delusional belief that one's ability might be better than it is - more amateur than professional However it is more for a brighter Set Screen that I would have liked OLED. Red or grey writing on a black background is close to invisible in sun. Wilson PS I did learn to use a light meter back in the days they were made by Weston. I also learnt to get my exposures pretty close without one, just by using the f16 rule and estimating how many EV's you are below maximum light. Good enough for colour negative anyway, if not reversal. W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted September 8, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 8, 2009 But i am very ok with driving a car that does not show me the speed as exactly as one with a digital tachometer. all i wanted to say is that the lcd screen is one of the less important things on a digital camera. by knowing what you are doing you won't need it for 99% of your shots, though it might be nice to have for some people. A histogram is very helpful. But you don't need 500.000 pixels for it nor a saphire screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 8, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 8, 2009 that's what i meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 8, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 8, 2009 Why would Leica revert to an older screen prior to the M8.2 for a next generation M9. I am referring to the saphire screen on the M8.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleeson Posted September 8, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 8, 2009 I suspect that if the image quality is as expected, the LCD screen definition will be unnoticed. A decent optical VF is the main reason I bought the M8, the LCD seemed quite adequate for my purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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