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where is the solution for "R" glass users?


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Lovely stuff Thorsten.

 

When I first saw it in Melbourne I thought it was Brilliant simply a class act, and still do.

 

It's images are gorgeous, Hassleblad felt it was a threat to their system so they stopped producing it.

Leica needed to please the M crowd so they devolped the M8 as it was an in house creation no restriction

was applied to it.

 

Leica decides to go MF with a whole new system, less competion and probably to get back at Hassleblad.

 

The casualty in this affair is the Leica R, so Leica's solution was to inform it's Leica R customers that

a solution was coming some time in the future, hopefully in time they will forget the R and purchess the Digital M or the S2.

 

Thank goodness that I am still using Film with my R lenses.

 

Ken.

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I am also disappointed and still use film in my R system. I think the idea of the DMR is great - though I have the need for full frame as I use wides quite a bit so it's not the best choice for my needs.

 

It's all intriguing to me as to why the system was promised then dropped - it is logical that Leica saw the competition as just too much to share the market with, but if so, didn't they know that early on? It's a mystery and to think they may have had a few working cameras; close, but yet so far.

 

Something tells me they'll eventually have a body similar in style to the X1 (bigger with full frame) and who knows what features. I really hope it doesn't take too long though.

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It's all intriguing to me as to why the system was promised then dropped.

 

I imagine they estimated the development/manufacturing costs, added some margin - for them and the dealer, divided that by the number they expected to sell, and realised very few people would be prepared to pay the price.

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Well there are numerous 'solutions' for R glass;

 

Film

New (remaining stocks) R9

S/h R mount cameras - available from £100 upwards

Canon EOS body

 

Digital

Leica DMR + R8/9

Canon Body

Leitax mounts for Nikon/Sony/Pentax

 

Honestly, what would any other alternative do that one or other of the above can't? OK stop down metering/shooting isn't at all ideal but then use film or a DMR. If you MUST shoot digital with R glass and prefer a new body then it's a compromise you have to accept. Leica have made noises about an R solution from another party, but I must say I wonder if it's a serious intention - or indeed if it will be an acceptable solution if it doesn't support open aperture functionality with a FF sensor.

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The casualty in this affair is the Leica R, so Leica's solution was to inform it's Leica R customers that a solution was coming some time in the future, hopefully in time they will forget the R and purchess the Digital M or the S2.

 

Unfortunately for my uses the M system will not do and the S2, cost aside, might also not be suitable for my work.

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Technically speaking there were mentioned 3 cameras for Wednesday. we all assumed the third is the S2 being re-introduced. but.

 

Somebody pointed out that it does not say "who" makes the third camera. this might just be "the solution" for R users, hinted at earlier this year.

 

Me thinks wednesday will be interesting, I'm starting the day early in Los Angeles with espresso and live event on the laptop at 6am.

 

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Charlie,Doug, James, Steve.

 

Fully agree.

 

Leica R users don't realize how lucky we are with so many options open to us.

 

(1) you can still use Film like I do.

 

(2) If you prefer Digital with your R lenses, you have a number of choices.

 

Many don't like step down metering when using Canon or others, BIG DEAL.

 

Leica M is ALL step down metering including M8,M8-2 and M9?

It's only because you view and compose through it's rangefinder that you don't notice it.

This is one reason live view wouldn't work very well on a Leica M unless you install the live view cam

away from through the lens.

 

Leica R lenses to Canon EOS, at first I criticised this method on this forum

But with so many positive comments coming from respected photographers on this forum I decided to give it a try,

first I got a cheap adapter to try on my friend's 40D It was so easy to use that I liked

it immediately, so then I decided to buy the Novoflex adapter.

So now I am no longer concerned as my option is there and waiting for my decision,

 

For myself I didn't like the idea of changing my R mount, I still like the idea of swinging back and forth between my R cameras for Film.

 

So it's not all lost, your options are quite extensive, Leica R lenses are much cheaper then M glass

with so many DSLR models out there it's hard decision to make.

As for the crop facter 1.3 1.6 or full frame they offer better capabilities and still cheaper then Leica's Digital M models.

I rather buy more R glass then a Digital M.

 

REMEMBER IT'S THE GLASS UP FRONT THAT MAKES THE IMAGE.

 

Unfortunately Leica didn't make enough DMR's to please every one,

 

Ken.

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I was also disappointed when the R10 was not made. I have an R9 and DMR and variety of excellent lenses which I am still very happy using but it is getting harder to find batteries and may not always be dependable for assignments. OK for my personal art work. I had two M8 bodies for photojournalism work which were business leases that I did not renew. The reason was that I had older M lenses from 1990s M6 days and for me they were not performing to the capabilities of the cameras which produce the best quality with the higher end new aspherical lenses. Owning several camera systems and working as photographer in rural America does not always allow for unlimited high end purchases. In this economy there are fewer clients and they are spending less on still photography. Corporations are using more inexpensive video (Utube) and point and shoot images targeted at web audiences. Photographers may need to choose a system that can cover a larger number of assignments and for me this is the SLR or Leica R.

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