jonno101 Posted August 19, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, New to M8, searched archives, but thought you might like to chip in just lens name quickly. SO whats the closest focusing lens on M8 (apart from MACRO-ELMAR-M 90mm f/4) and please include any NON Leica lenses. Thanks You Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted August 19, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 19, 2009 The rangefinder will not focus closer than 1 meter, but some Zeiss lenses will be able to focus down to 0.7 m unmeasured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 19, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 19, 2009 The rangefinder goes down to 0.7m, the WATE (uncoupled) to 0.5m with the dept of field markings (given the extreme depth of field to less even than that. The WATE has a click stop at 0.7m then a heavier focussing action down to 0.5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 19, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah- you're right Mark - The M8 does indeed go to 0.70. And the Zeiss Biogons go down to 0.50 m. (And of course more on the DOF scale) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted August 19, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 19, 2009 The 15mm Voigtlander (at least the original screw-mount version) focuses to 30cm, and I imagine the 12mm does so too. Anything closer than that will need one of the many "legacy" close-up devices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted August 19, 2009 Share #6 Posted August 19, 2009 My Tri-Elmar 16-18-21 goes down to .5 meters and .3 with DOF markings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted August 19, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jon, If you allow the Visoflex and Bellows, then about 20 mm with the 135 f/4 Elmar iirc. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 19, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 19, 2009 Don't mention the B-word, especially not in combination with the V-word, you'll Frank all in a lather... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 19, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 19, 2009 Close-focusing and tight framing are two different things. The tightest-framing lenses for the M8 are the 90 macro (with or without macro adapter goggles) followed by the 75 Summicron (without any adapters). Skipping the whole question of Visoflex/bellows use. 1:6.7 (1:3 - goggles) and 1:7 reproduction ratios, respectively The WATE, by comparison, only achieves a 1:30 reproduction ratio @ 21mm, or 1:38 @ 16mm. FWIW, the original Zeiss Hologon (für Leica-M) 15mm focused to .2 meters (8"). I don't know it that has ever been tested to see if it will work on an M8 without hitting the shutter. Looks like the Contax-G Hologon goes to .3m, as does the Zeiss Distagon 15mm f/2.8. http://visordirecto.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/carl-zeiss-hologon-158-montura-leica-m/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted August 19, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 19, 2009 The question which lens allows the closest focus is perhaps not so interesting in practice, if you don't look at the results of close focussing. Therefore you have to look at object field and reproduction ratio. Both depend on the lenses focal length. The 2/75 Apo-Summicron allows a minimum focus of 0,7m and produces an object field of 169 x 254 mm and a reproduction ratio of 1:7. (I am not sure if these figures are for "full-format". If so the M 8 crop of 1,33 gives a higher reproduction ratio). The "Wate" at 21 mm with a minimum focus of 0,5 m gives you a much bigger object field of 545 x 817 mm, but a much, much smaller reproduction ratio of approx. 1:30. So the Apo-Summicron lets you take photos much "closer" in practice than the "Wate" with a closer focus. Besides the Makro-Elmar the Apo-Summicron is the "best" Leica lens for close distances with the M8. I don't know wether M-Lenses of other origin give the same results. Edit: Adan was quicker... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 19, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 19, 2009 Zuiko 21/2 (with adapter): .2 meter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khiromu Posted August 19, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 19, 2009 If your purpose of "close focus" is to get macro like pictures, then I use 70 Summicron APO for that purpose. It focuses down to 70 cm and it is RF coupled at that focus distance. Hiromu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted August 19, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 19, 2009 Voigtländer 12 mm: 1 ft or 0.3 m But as many remark above, you need to distinguish between closest focus and maximum reproduction ratio. I think the 75/2 (ca 1:7) wins on the latter, at least in Leica's range. Don't most manufacturers publish both in their lens spec sheets? As for "closest focus," does that really mean anything in practical terms, since the M8 lacks a film-plane / focus-plane mark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted August 19, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 19, 2009 If you want the shortest lens-to-subject distance, stick the Leica on a microscope and you can get down to well under 1mm. For the shortest film-to-subject distance, I guess it would be a 16mm Luminar or similar lens for macrophotography, with a custom adapter to place the nodal point or whatever 32mm from the film plane. That would give 1:1 reproduction at a film-to-subject distance of 7cm or less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrmd Posted August 19, 2009 Share #15 Posted August 19, 2009 The new Voigtlander 15 with rangefinder coupling is marked down to 0.5 m. DR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted August 20, 2009 Share #16 Posted August 20, 2009 Jon: I think the 75mm Summicron gives the closest focusing, if you are asking which lens gives the largest magnification other than the Macro. On the Leica web site you can download the specs on each lens. In these specification will be the closest focus image magnification, or a similar term. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted August 20, 2009 Share #17 Posted August 20, 2009 I think the 75mm Summicron gives the closest focusing, if you are asking which lens gives the largest magnification other than the Macro. On the Leica web site you can download the specs on each lens. In these specification will be the closest focus image magnification, or a similar term. Gee, Robert, glad to have your second! ... you need to distinguish between closest focus and maximum reproduction ratio. I think the 75/2 (ca 1:7) wins on the latter, at least in Leica's range. Don't most manufacturers publish both in their lens spec sheets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisPT Posted August 20, 2009 Share #18 Posted August 20, 2009 Nikkor 5cm/1.4 or the f/2? I don't have the exact number but shall be able to go down to 20 inches without RF coupling. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted August 20, 2009 Share #19 Posted August 20, 2009 Nikkor 5cm/1.4 or the f/2? I don't have the exact number but shall be able to go down to 20 inches without RF coupling. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have my Nikkor 50/1.4, but it focusses stupid close. 1 foot maybe? Not coupled of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fefe Posted August 20, 2009 Share #20 Posted August 20, 2009 The Nikkor 50 f1.4 in ltm focuses down to 45cm (uncoupled and looses coupling at 1m for me). 35 Cron Asph focuses down to 70cm (coupled) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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