elgenper Posted July 11, 2009 Share #21 Posted July 11, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow! How and where is that dodge and burn in Lightroom? Well, at least in 2.4, there is an adjustment brush that can, among several other things, be used for dodging and burning. It lacks some of the refinements possible when painting on, say a soft-light blending layer in Photoshop, but it´s easily the equal of what was possible in the wet darkroom. Also, there are gradients and post-crop vignetting that are quite useful in many cases. For myself, I´ve just started exploring LightZone as an alternative to Photoshop (I´m still using CS2), and it allows very extensive local and global tone adjustments. But, like Photoshop, one works with an exported file, not nondestructively on the original raw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 11, 2009 Posted July 11, 2009 Hi elgenper, Take a look here Digilux 2 Images. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Overgaard Posted July 11, 2009 Share #22 Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks. I see that, it has been there since 2.0 or earlier. Never used it and just tried. Not the same as dodge/burn in PS where you can (which is what I do) brighten hightlights 10% and then burn shadows 10%. Will experiment with it a bit more. Nice to be able to adjust exposure in parts of the picture which you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkphoto Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share #23 Posted July 11, 2009 And to answer your questions as to the program I post-process in - it is LightZone. I have been using it since it came out. It gives me the closest dodging and burning that I used to use in my darkroom - except I would be cutting out holes and shapes in cards and taking all day to make one print. The only other programs I use is Neat Image for noise (LZ doesn't do a very good job at this.) and Blow-up 2 if I need a larger image size from the Digilux 2. That's it. chk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted July 11, 2009 Share #24 Posted July 11, 2009 LightZone lightcrafts Supported cameras: lightzone camera support lightcrafts There is a tutorial for LightZone: LightZone Tutorial 1: Landscape See also: Art of RAW Conversion #026 @Digital Outback Photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesh Posted July 11, 2009 Share #25 Posted July 11, 2009 Here's another vote for LightZone which I see as a nice complementary application to Lightroom, which I use as my main manager/processor. Things have been very quiet from the LightZone developer for some time and I did wonder if it might be in terminal decline - but there have recently been some renewed signs of life. That's good news because the application has some unique features which are ideal for specific images. There is a nice add-on which streamlines the round trip journey to and from LR. Don't know about Aperture but presumably that can also integrate with LTZ whenever required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted July 12, 2009 Share #26 Posted July 12, 2009 Here's another vote for LightZone which I see as a nice complementary application to Lightroom, which I use as my main manager/processor. Things have been very quiet from the LightZone developer for some time and I did wonder if it might be in terminal decline - but there have recently been some renewed signs of life. That's good news because the application has some unique features which are ideal for specific images. There is a nice add-on which streamlines the round trip journey to and from LR. Don't know about Aperture but presumably that can also integrate with LTZ whenever required. In Aperture you can set your "Edit With" to an application of your choice... and indicate if you want a Tiff or Jpeg. So, I'd think roundtripping shouldn't be an issue. I'll have to look at this program. JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted July 12, 2009 Share #27 Posted July 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) And to answer your questions as to the program I post-process in - it is LightZone. I have been using it since it came out. It gives me the closest dodging and burning that I used to use in my darkroom - except I would be cutting out holes and shapes in cards and taking all day to make one print. The only other programs I use is Neat Image for noise (LZ doesn't do a very good job at this.) and Blow-up 2 if I need a larger image size from the Digilux 2. That's it. chk How are the prints from images treated with Blow-up 2? How large have you done and do you do your own printing or use a lab? Thanks, JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkphoto Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share #28 Posted July 13, 2009 How are the prints from images treated with Blow-up 2? How large have you done and do you do your own printing or use a lab? Thanks, JT John The largest blow up is a 20" longest side from both the Digilux 2 & 3. I have giclees printed by a printer that specializes in them. And I have been pleased as have the purchasers of the prints. Actually, I am amazed at the detail retained in the resulting up-sized image. But not all images work well. Too much noise in the first place and you can't have a pleasing image. The files from the Digilux 3 for whatever reason has a great ability to take up-sizing. If you want I will post a forum acceptable section of a 100% native size and a 100% up-sized if that will be of any help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnPirat Posted July 13, 2009 Share #29 Posted July 13, 2009 ... If you want I will post a forum acceptable section of a 100% native size and a 100% up-sized if that will be of any help. I would be interested in! thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronners Posted July 13, 2009 Share #30 Posted July 13, 2009 This site is inspirational, in its design and execution, and especially in its content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkphoto Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share #31 Posted July 13, 2009 I can't take any credit for the web site design as they are pre-designed modules that you just populate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted July 14, 2009 Share #32 Posted July 14, 2009 How are the prints from images treated with Blow-up 2? How large have you done and do you do your own printing or use a lab? Thanks, JT John (and others interested in Blowup) I recall an exchange of postings in the general forum at the time I was investigating the first version of AlienSkin BlowUP. By far the most influential example was offered by David Adamson, a professional printer in the USA. A quick search shows that his work has emerged again this year. See http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/9022-30-x-40-inch-m8-prints.html I realize that he was not using a D2, but his claims for the M8 quality enlargements really stirred some folks into expressions of disbelief. If you search further you may find the original postings. I have used BlowUp successfully for enlarging some of my digital files, even from my D2, for stock use but I have not actually obtained big prints for myself. I have no connection with David Adamson, but he was extremely helpful to me when I posed a similar question some time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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