roguewave Posted April 4, 2009 Share #61 Posted April 4, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The question should be: Why didn't you keep your DMR? Right now, you cant's buy a better kit from Leica. Hands down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted April 4, 2009 Share #62 Posted April 4, 2009 The question should be: Why didn't you keep your DMR? Right now, you cant's buy a better kit from Leica. Hands down! <Sharp intake of breath.> Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted April 4, 2009 Share #63 Posted April 4, 2009 Yup! Ben's right. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 4, 2009 Share #64 Posted April 4, 2009 Yup! Ben's right. I could claim that technically no one can buy a DMR from Leica so it disqualifies itself but that would be churlish so I won't. (Btw, I haven't disagreed with Ben's sentiment. ) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted April 4, 2009 Share #65 Posted April 4, 2009 The question should be: Why didn't you keep your DMR? Right now, you cant's buy a better kit from Leica. Hands down! Here's a few of them....but basically it wasn;t for me One - Heavy Two - not such great performance at higher iso Three - only 2 fps Four - Battery life was mediocore for an all day outing Five - Car charger set-up was very bulky Six - Exposure with flash not calibrated with camera Seven - Leica was to slow to delevep firmware upgrades, version 2 of the firmware actually was a step back - couldn't get usable jpegs until Version 3 of the firmware which frankly took to long Eight - Needed to clean the contacts to often (almost after every outing) Nine - Viewfinder in my opinion could have used some magification for easier focusing Ten - When leica de-commited IMO, by not producing another batch of DMR's and announced no DMR II and that direction would be fully digial camera Iwanted to sell while prices were still high Eleven: Digilux 3 with R lenses is lighter, produce better jpgs, offeres more lens choices (AF kit lens plus the Oly's) and more fun to use. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted April 4, 2009 Share #66 Posted April 4, 2009 Rich, Yes I know about points 1-10, but point 11! I haven't shot any jpegs with my DMR and never will. RAW all the way for me. And that's the thing that really wins for the DMR. The RAW files that come out of the DMR are still really good. OK maybe I could realise some cash if I sold my 2 DMRs, but why would I want to sell them? I get great pictures out of them and the amount of post-processing i do is pretty minimal. Maybe if I was a sport pro, then maybe that would be different. But as a hobby photographer I am very happy now. The DMR allows me to use a great range of stunning R glass to its full potential. What more do I need (apart from more sessions in the weights room to help me carry the darn thing!). Best wishes, Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 4, 2009 Share #67 Posted April 4, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) One - Heavy But no heavier than the Canon or Nikon equivalents Two - not such great performance at higher iso OK, but at low ISO...? Nothing to beat it. Full stop. Three - only 2 fps How often did you need more than 2 fps? Honestly? Four - Battery life was mediocore for an all day outing I could get 4 gig out of one battery. Carrying a spare is no big deal. Five - Car charger set-up was very bulky Come on... you can do better than this. How small is your car? Six - Exposure with flash not calibrated with camera R8 or R9? Seven - Leica was to slow to delevep firmware upgrades, version 2 of the firmware actually was a step back - couldn't get usable jpegs until Version 3 of the firmware which frankly took to long But, they did come up with v1.3, AFTER they had discontinued the hardware, which was a massive improvement over v1.1 Eight - Needed to clean the contacts to often (almost after every outing) Not in my experience. Once my DMR was mated to my R8 it stayed there. Nine - Viewfinder in my opinion could have used some magification for easier focusing That's related to the camera body, not the DMR. In my experience, the R8 / R9 finder is one of the best ever made. Ten - When leica de-commited IMO, by not producing another batch of DMR's and announced no DMR II and that direction would be fully digial camera Iwanted to sell while prices were still high I sold when I knew I could get a decent price for mine. Not because of 1-9 above. Eleven: Digilux 3 with R lenses is lighter, produce better jpgs, offeres more lens choices (AF kit lens plus the Oly's) and more fun to use. But give worse images. Nothing, but nothing ever made with a Leica name on the front, gives better digital images than the DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted April 5, 2009 Share #68 Posted April 5, 2009 Charlie- Andy: I can;t argue with you comments ..... only to say im not a pro, im a "somewhat serious" hobbiest. Indoor sports is one of my venues and post-processing raw files is just to time consuming for me - frankly speaking i never got a good workflow down either. Maybe the real truth is the DMR didn't fit (nor was designed) for my profile Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted April 5, 2009 Share #69 Posted April 5, 2009 oh and number nine ----- as you know the DMR focusing screens used only a portion of the VF frame, i thought they could have provided a maginfication when the DMR was engaged.. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 5, 2009 Share #70 Posted April 5, 2009 Rather not - one of the great advantages of the DMR is the ability to see outside of the frame - a bit like a rangefinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 5, 2009 Share #71 Posted April 5, 2009 Charlie- Andy: I can;t argue with you comments ..... only to say im not a pro, im a "somewhat serious" hobbiest. Indoor sports is one of my venues and post-processing raw files is just to time consuming for me - frankly speaking i never got a good workflow down either. Maybe the real truth is the DMR didn't fit (nor was designed) for my profile Rich What is wrong with RAW files? Running them through ACR or C4 takes only seconds, maybe a minute at most if you are still in the learning curve - and then you are in the same workflow as Jpeg - only with high-quality TIFFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yst Posted April 5, 2009 Share #72 Posted April 5, 2009 It is true that Leica had been very "forward thinking", at the time of designing the R8, all contacts and possible add-on had already designed onto the camera, otherwise it would have not been possible to work with a "DMR" years later after the conception of R8. At the time the new R8 was out we had wondered that were all those contacts on the bottom of the camera prepared for... Although I do not have a DMR and using slide films only, but always have admired Leica's uniqueness and exclusive invention and again the "forward thinking". I find the R9 with all those R lenses are great joy to use for producing great images on slides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dritz Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share #73 Posted April 7, 2009 Thanks to everyone for their comments. Yesterday I took the plunge and purchased a new DMR. I shall have it in about 2 weeks, then I shall part with my M8. Btw, just had my first experience with the new Tmax-400 -- very impressive film and it scans very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2009 Share #74 Posted April 7, 2009 I have a DMR and two M8-s I would not part with any of them. The M8 complements the DMR wonderfully,or the other way around depending on the subject and shooting style as the files are fully compatible in the workflow. It is not "or" but "and" imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted April 7, 2009 Share #75 Posted April 7, 2009 I have a DMR and two M8-s I would not part with any of them. The M8 complements the DMR wonderfully,or the other way around depending on the subject and shooting style as the files are fully compatible in the workflow. It is not "or" but "and" imo. Couldn't agree more, Jaap. The files in fact are more similar than dissimilar, if you know how to process them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted April 7, 2009 Share #76 Posted April 7, 2009 I have a DMR and two M8-s I would not part with any of them. The M8 complements the DMR wonderfully,or the other way around depending on the subject and shooting style as the files are fully compatible in the workflow. It is not "or" but "and" imo. Which RAW converter do you use for DMR and M8 files? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2009 Share #77 Posted April 7, 2009 C4. Sometimes ACR, but for convenience only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_clarke Posted April 8, 2009 Share #78 Posted April 8, 2009 Which RAW converter do you use for DMR and M8 files? I use Lightroom for both the DMR and M8, but after looking at your earlier posts about Flexcolor I'm now tempted to go back to it for "selected" images. Thanks for a great site. Best wishes, Graeme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted April 8, 2009 Share #79 Posted April 8, 2009 C4. Sometimes ACR, but for convenience only. IS there some special setting I'm missing in C4 since I think their images are too warm (red and yellow)..? What is your primary setting for DMR work in C4..? (Also, if anybody is using Aperture for DMR and like it, what is the settings in Aperture for you?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnaKen Posted April 8, 2009 Share #80 Posted April 8, 2009 The question should be: Why didn't you keep your DMR? Right now, you cant's buy a better kit from Leica. Hands down! No, no, no. The question should be: Who will sell me his DMR for 1000,00 € or less? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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