tommycrown Posted October 3, 2006 Share #1 Posted October 3, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I own a C-Lux 1 and plan to shoot some serious shots this upcoming year. I was wondering if V-Lux 1 is suitable for street photography. C-Lux 1 is good for me, but I want more details and zoom feature. Anyone planning to get hands on V-Lux? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rsh Posted October 3, 2006 Share #2 Posted October 3, 2006 If you are looking for a reasonably priced camera that will yield excellent image quality, go for V-Lux when thje camera is available. It will be more expensive than the Panasonic Counterpart, but you will get a longer warranty and that is really important with digital cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipotto Posted October 3, 2006 Share #3 Posted October 3, 2006 I would look into getting a second hand Leica Digilux 2 or Panasonic LC1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycrown Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted October 3, 2006 I would look into getting a second hand Leica Digilux 2 or Panasonic LC1. Phillip, I have looked into Ebay lately, but still they seem to be over 1200 USD. Do you think V-Lux 1 would exceed the pixel quality over D2 though? Also, anyone knows about shutter lag on V-Lux 1? Better or worse than D2? I can't afford price for D3, nor the weight for street photography. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted October 3, 2006 Share #5 Posted October 3, 2006 For me, the D3 and the V-Lux 1 are simply too big; the V-Lux 1 looks quite cute from the front but from the side, it's huge. There's a big gap in size between those two and the D-Lux 3 and C-Lux 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted October 3, 2006 Share #6 Posted October 3, 2006 I handled both a Panason FZ-50 (V-LUX 1) and a L1 at a dealer recently. The L1 (soon to be the Digilux 3) is a positive behemoth - certainly too large to be used discretely. In fact, for me, possibly too large period. It is interesting to note that the recently announced 25mm 1.4 for the D3 actually weighs more according to the stats published at Dpreview than the kit lens! This is one bulky, heavy camera, imho. The FZ-50 is much more compact and although I agree that the lens projection is long in fact it is still a reasonably compact camera. One you could carry for a long time without being weighed down by it. I was surprisingly attracted to it as a working tool, the only drawback being the electronic viewfinder. That said, as I use a D-LUX 2 exclusively I guess I should not have that much problem with an EVF. My instant opinion is that the L1 (Digilux 3) is too big and frankly a little under-specified for the money when compared to, say, a D80 and decent lens (shock horror). However the V-LUX 1 seems to be alone in its class and price point, imho. I could almost argue, even at Leica's premium, actually good value for money. It is a difficult decision for me as my heart says get a Digilux 3 and my head says, save cash, increase value and comfort by getting a V-LUX 1. I'm probably alone in thinking this but those are my current conclusions. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted October 3, 2006 Share #7 Posted October 3, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi folks, I have been on the Photokina, and I have tried both the V-Lux and the Digilux 3. Well, both cameras are nice items. As may be anticipated, both cameras have lower noise than the DL2, with clear advantage to the DL3, and the general technical progress can be seen clearly. Nevertheless, I think that the DL2 is still better suitable for what is called street photography. It is not as huge, and more discrete. And the M8, which would be optimal, is far to expensive... If they would come up with a V-Lux "clone" equipped with an optics say from 28-280 mm instead of 35-420 mm, this would be a real challenge to my money wallet. So, I continue being happy with my DL2 that still produces nice images. Best regards, Peter. Edit: Although quite amateurish, I did a small comparison between DL2, V-Lux and DL3 in the German Forum: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digitalforum/6445-kleiner-vergleich.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoutman Posted October 3, 2006 Share #8 Posted October 3, 2006 Hello, I own a C-Lux 1 and plan to shoot some serious shots this upcoming year. I was wondering if V-Lux 1 is suitable for street photography. C-Lux 1 is good for me, but I want more details and zoom feature. Anyone planning to get hands on V-Lux? tommy, not unimportant for many of us: does size matter ? One advantage of a C-Lux 1 is that one alllways can store it in your pocket. With a V-Lux 1 that will be out of the question... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted October 3, 2006 Share #9 Posted October 3, 2006 For street photography you want a camera that's discrete. The V-Lux or its Panasonic counterpart are anything but. They are HUGE zoom lenses with a sensor attached, that you bring to your face. Better off with a Digilux 2 or the D-Lux 2 or Lumix LX1. You should know, however, that these are the previous models. I prefer them over the current models, the D-Lux 3 and Lumix LX2, including the V-Lux by the way, due to the fact that with all those extra pixels on the same sized sensor as the previous model, there may be a lot of more noise at higher ISO's, which, is also an important feature for street photography. And from what I've heard and read, the Venus III engine takes out a lot of detail in trying to reduce that noise, thus neutralizing any reason you'd by a digital camera with a Leitz lens in the first place. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 3, 2006 Share #10 Posted October 3, 2006 There was a test in the AP today of the Panasonic version of this camera. They gave it 80%, which is rather average. Noise was an issue (image noise that is). Maybe you should look at a Leica CM for street photography, if not the M. If it must be digital then personally I think you MUST have an optical finder, and an LCD which you can tilt up to use like a WLF is very useful. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 3, 2006 Share #11 Posted October 3, 2006 What distinguish the V-lux 1 is the 35-420 mm lens. I feel tempted because of the low price of a digital 'all-round' for those few assignments that must be done digitally because the pictures must be sent right off. The D2 is fantastic and nice but only 90mm which is not an allround 'news camera.' But that is my take on it. Except for that, the design of the V-lux turns me off. But so does digital somehow. For street I would also say D2/Pana LC1 or CM og M. There might also be a few Minilux around for fair prices (I saw five of them in a window locally last week). CM and Minilux has AF and everything auto, are handy and that 40mm lens just sucks all details for later enlargment. It's quite amazing. But a fact. Well, I guess this just confirms one mus have several Leicas. One is never enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted October 3, 2006 Share #12 Posted October 3, 2006 Tommy, as a user of both the Digilux 2 and C-Lux, I'd have to say that the Digilux has the better lens - low distortion and great clarity - and has better colour reproduction, but in B&W, I actually prefer the C-Lux. It's so tiny and the 28mm (equivalent) lens makes it great for street work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackart Posted October 3, 2006 Share #13 Posted October 3, 2006 Digilux 2 has been great cam for me. I really can recommnd as one option for You. -Jaak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted October 3, 2006 Share #14 Posted October 3, 2006 Having given a lot of thought to the new range (paper study only) I am veering to continuing with my M film and D2. Both give a superb range of options. For me the V Lux 1 has the wrong lens range. I absolutely need a true 28mm at the wider end and would almost never use the 420mm telephoto range. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycrown Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted October 4, 2006 Thorsten, I totally agree with you on how we must have several leicas! I have used Minilux before for Street photography. I loved it and still miss it so bad after I switched to Digital. I can't really afford M8 now, (some of you know what I mean), I really need wide angle and some zoom. So I thought I would get V-Lux 1 and the wide angle + telephoto attachments. If I get D2 now, how long can I use this before I have to switch again? I looked into D3, but it seems to be very heavy for street photography! Also, for D2, isn't there any shutter lag? Wouldn't V-Lux 1 have very little shutter lag like other SLRs? Thank you everyone for your responses! I am having great experience in this Leica community Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycrown Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share #16 Posted October 4, 2006 Does anyone know when V-Lux 1 becomes available? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 4, 2006 Share #17 Posted October 4, 2006 a 25mm Leica lens and a Oly E-400............ small pentax K100/110 plus a pancake lens........ or in the future.... sigma DP1(2007 Jan).... the E-440(2007-08)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycrown Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share #18 Posted October 5, 2006 I don't want to be too obssed with the release date, but isn't it coming out around October 28th? Also, does anyone know if V-Lux 1 will have limited availability in US? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 5, 2006 Share #19 Posted October 5, 2006 Well, is the Panasonic out, maybe? Or are we brand obsessed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 5, 2006 Share #20 Posted October 5, 2006 I don't care about brand. Gimme pretty images instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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