ShyTot Posted September 9, 2008 Share #101 Posted September 9, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) And as far as questions like "Who would use a 21mm 1.4?" Let's just say Leica is making these lenses for those who have the imaginations to use them to the fullest. This represents an incredible set of optics in the groundbreaking tradition of Leica and spells out long term commitment to me. I will watch from the sidelines in earnest. [[Re: M8.2 Quote: Originally Posted by sdai How big is it going to be?] Surprisingly big, IMO. There's much to look forward to. Stuff that will actually make a difference to the images you can take.]] Thought you would like it !! Enjoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest darkstar2004 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #102 Posted September 10, 2008 A great photographer could easily spend an entire lifetime with just those three lenses doing far, far more than most would with this new glass. Very true. Leica glass can be very seductive. I freely admit that some times I am guilty of falling prey to the "one more lens" syndrome (the 75/2 ASPH is currently leering at me and making indecent advances). The important thing is to use whatever lenses you have at present - and to not let your camera bag get so heavy that it causes you misery and interferes with actual image making (known as "National Geographic Photographer Syndrome"). Having been afflicted with NGPS in the past, I can testify that it is counterproductive to making images - and making images is the whole reason for sacrificing & investing in Leica cameras & lenses in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #103 Posted September 10, 2008 Very true. Leica glass can be very seductive. I freely admit that some times I am guilty of falling prey to the "one more lens" syndrome (the 75/2 ASPH is currently leering at me and making indecent advances). The important thing is to use whatever lenses you have at present - and to not let your camera bag get so heavy that it causes you misery and interferes with actual image making (known as "National Geographic Photographer Syndrome"). Having been afflicted with NGPS in the past, I can testify that it is counterproductive to making images - and making images is the whole reason for sacrificing & investing in Leica cameras & lenses in the first place. Most NG shooters I know who shoot the kind of genre that you would use a Leica for go light. One M body and two maybe three lenses. In over 30 years of shooting, I have never heard of the "NGPS". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 10, 2008 Share #104 Posted September 10, 2008 In over 30 years of shooting, I have never heard of the "NGPS". Maybe 'New Gear Purchase Syndrome'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted September 10, 2008 Share #105 Posted September 10, 2008 I am hoping that Leica will put out a Summilux 28mm f/1,4...... The f/2 to f/1,4 difference would make me start saving..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 10, 2008 Share #106 Posted September 10, 2008 RE: Geographic Photographers and gear - yes, the recent Leica-shooting NG photographers keep it light. But back in the 1965-1985 (roughly) era, NG photographers in general were famous for occasionally showing up with enough gear for an assignment that it took 4-5 human porters or two canoes to transport everything into the back beyond. Strobes, stands, backups for everything (and 'everything' meant - literally - everything Nikon sold). 200-300 rolls of (you said it, KM-25 (or KII, prior to 1973). I never heard it called a "syndrome" - but anyone in photojournalism would have recognized what was meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steich Posted September 10, 2008 Share #107 Posted September 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) All those infos have been just confirmed by a french Leica dealer. Add, to the Video Screener Pradovit 1200 a new Digital Reflex Camera called S2. This reflex will be introduced at the Photokina but on sale only next year, 2009. Leica have just registered a trademark "S2" for cameras... https://dpinfo.dpma.de/protect/mar.html At "Aktenzeichen", enter "302008040929.0". Regards Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 10, 2008 Share #108 Posted September 10, 2008 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/63152-21-24-summilux.html#post650800 That's three interesting lenses so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraikon Posted September 10, 2008 Share #109 Posted September 10, 2008 Leica have just registered a trademark "S2" for cameras...https://dpinfo.dpma.de/protect/mar.html At "Aktenzeichen", enter "302008040929.0". Regards Stefan At a recently interview in FTD (29.08.08) FTD.de - Porträt: Andreas Kaufmann - Der Selbstablöser - Seite 1 von 3 - Köpfe Dr Kaufmann mentioned: "1989 diskutiert der Vorstand ein Papier der Entwicklungsabteilung: "Warum die Digitalkamera die Zukunft ist". Kaufmann wirft die Arme in die Höhe. "'89! Da wussten 99,5 Prozent der Menschen nicht einmal, was eine Digitalkamera ist." Er springt auf und wuchtet einen klobigen, schwarzen Kasten auf den Konferenztisch - die erste digitale Kamera von Leica aus dem Jahr 1996. 38.000 DM kostet das Gerät damals - untauglich für den Massenmarkt. Vier Jahre später wäre eine kompakte Digitalkamera möglich gewesen. "Und wieder zögerte man. Geht das? Was kostet das? Wie soll man das machen?", schimpft Kaufmann." Perhaps with the name "S2" he tries to tie at this Leica digital tradition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted September 10, 2008 Share #110 Posted September 10, 2008 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/63152-21-24-summilux.html#post650800 That's three interesting lenses so far... Four Andy, don't forget the 24/1.4. At least we'll have something to discuss over beers in Krakow. - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted September 10, 2008 Share #111 Posted September 10, 2008 Perilously close to the price of many automobiles... You must be buying the wrong cars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 10, 2008 Share #112 Posted September 10, 2008 Perilously close to the price of many automobiles... I would give preference to the lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted September 10, 2008 Share #113 Posted September 10, 2008 I'd settle for a 21 Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted September 10, 2008 Share #114 Posted September 10, 2008 I'd settle for a 21 Summicron. Stop down the 21 Summilux one stop and you're there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted September 10, 2008 Share #115 Posted September 10, 2008 Anybody wish to speculate as to front element size, weight as well as VF blockage from these new 'luxes? - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp Posted September 10, 2008 Share #116 Posted September 10, 2008 Did anyone so far think about filter size, angle of view and how the rangefinder of M3 to M8 will cope with such lenses? There should be some kind of new image viewing/finding idea on the way as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 10, 2008 Share #117 Posted September 10, 2008 21mm or 24mm? On the M8 we have 28mm and 32mm... 28mm is practical for my needs. But 21mm is too wide, and considering a future full frame M... that is easy: 21 is much better for me also in the M8 (since you already have made the investment) trade and trade again and have fun in the process. easy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted September 10, 2008 Share #118 Posted September 10, 2008 Anybody wish to speculate as to front element size, weight as well as VF blockage from these new 'luxes? - Carl Carl, with film M's VF blockage will most likely not be an issue at all, as you will have to use an external finder anyway. With the M8, 24mm is the widest frame shown in the camera's viewfinder, but considering the crop, VF blockage shouldn't be too bad either. And I am sure Leica has tested these new beasts extensively on both film and digital M's before bringing them to the market. They know nobody will buy them if the VF is blocked . Regards, Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2008 Share #119 Posted September 10, 2008 Did anyone so far think about filter size, angle of view and how the rangefinder of M3 to M8 will cope with such lenses? There should be some kind of new image viewing/finding idea on the way as well... I use the current 21 and 24 elmarits all the time on my m3, m6 and m8. The classic way to accomodate wides like this on an M body is to use a (hot-)shoe finder, which I have. But I mostly don't use it. The m8, particularly, is the easiest even with the 21, since the framelines essentially divide the FOV into thirds. Very nice for composition, actually. I can see what's going on with my other eye "open" and I don't need to use the finder. Of course, I'm shooting a little "loosely" in terms of composition, but that's true with all rangefinders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 10, 2008 Share #120 Posted September 10, 2008 Maybe, but Leica claims to be small and unobtrusive. I hardly see this with the a. m. combo. I could get a DSLR + lense with that specification for 30% of the Leica price? And with these prices the price beginns to matter for me. Kasimir, nope--the only 28 1.4 out there in dslr land right now is Nikon's; it's discontinued and used sells for around $3k US--without a camera A 21 Lux makes a lot of sense on an M8. It will be a fraction of the size of a dslr lens, too. You also don't need a finder to compose with it on the m8 (at least, I don't--it's one of my favourite focal lengths on a cropped body). Have you seen a noctilux compared with a canon 50 1.2L EF lens? Very small comparitively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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